pearson only predicting a top 5 finish with his new and improved squad next year so I doubt that top 4 was any kind of serious target at the club this season

If Bradford was not in the we'd finish 9th.

If Salford beat KR it might still happen.

Unlikely with players in a strop about Smith going.

This discussion had nothing whatsover to do with my own interpretations on what is written in the media, the fact is statements were coming out of the club claiming top 4 finish only weeks ago and my point is this would raise the expectations of a lot of fans who read the articles. I am still adamant that McRae contradicts himself just because you disagreed and had a different interpretation to me which I respect did not make me change my mind

We were poor last night, especially in attack it was shocking. Defence improved but first two tries were poor. Ref was appalling and cost us the second try.

That was as bad as the playoff loss last year. Have we improved....

could have been a very different game if Ablett had been sent for ten as he should have been, of course we've improved, amazes me, people were saying "give Agar time, it's not his squad" and yet the very same people are questioning wether we've improved under Gentle when it's clear to see we have.

any CONFIRMATION of the Salford k/o yet?

We lost by 32 points in that game. Not convinced last night was as poor as that.

10 first teamers out, poor conditions and atrocious officials, last night was nowhere near as bad.

With ball in hand we were as bad. Defensively our attitude was much better.

That was nowhere near as bad as the playoff loss, and we clearly have improved as much as the current squad is capable of improving. We were never going to achieve much this season even before all the injuries and disruption. Our first choice 17 was only likely to get us up to around 6th at best so no surprise that we're falling short with half of them not available for one reason or another.

stop speaking sense kosh, people dont like it,

thinkthat was one of the worst refereed games i have ever watched. thought you were going well. when you were 12 points down you looked to me the better team but at one point the penalty count was 10 -2 in leeds favour and they wre getting every decision that he could possibly give them. its about time they bit the bullet in england and got some decent aussie refs in for a couple of seasons to learn them the game. on the plus side , thought mcgoldrick had a good game.

I agree with that but our team were dead on their feet and couldn't cope with the pace. The penalty count killed us and Leeds took advantage of all the tackling we had to do. So that's why we struggled for the qptb and organising our attacking structure.
All my opinion of course add to that Manu, Radford, heremaia, watts and mcgoldrick were all blowing out their as s es.