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| Quote: Sheldon "How long did McDermott spend under Smith, how did he put this tutelage into practice at London?
Radfords spent time with Noble, Mcrea and Gentle. Not one Hull fan can't think of a coach they'd rather have but we don't have to bend things to suit our argument.'"
McDermott spent 2 years under a proven Head coach ,then 4 years at London.
Radford has never learnt his trade as an assistant, under a proven Head Coach..
I can think of a few coaches,I'd rather have, however I feel
we need an addition of an attack coach,who has not been part of this club's fabric,since Cooke left. |
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "It really isn't a nonsense figure. You asked how many fans would it take to lose £500k of income and I gave you that figure. IT really is that simple and not nonsense.'"
It's absolutely complete nonsense to think we'll lose 2,000 passholders from last year.
Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "You again fail spectacularly to see the bigger picture. Elements of the support base of the club has indicated its either backing off or is undecided as to how much it will commit to for next season.'"
I haven't missed that point at all, i've just blamed Perason's constant talk of top 4, Wembley and false promises for it.
Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The owner, with already signed players is rightly concerned about how income will cover the contracted costs.'"
Would you commit to the spend if you couldn't envisage being able to meet it? I'm pretty sure Pearson wouldn't.
Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "You then quote comments about "emotional blackmail", yet you are happy to believe the owner's claim of 8000 hardcore fans.
Make your mind up, other wise this circle will never end ![]()
The emotional blackmail is when he's at award ceremonies telling people there may not be a club to support if they don't buy a pass. I merely suggested that was a load of bollox because of what he'd said about the 'core support'.
Not sure what else there is to be said, I like Pearson and i'm sure we'd be far worse off without him. I just don't like the threatening rhetoric surrounding this years pass sales. We'll be fine.
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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: weaver93 "McDermott spent 2 years under a proven Head coach ,then 4 years at London.
Radford has never learnt his trade as an assistant, under a proven Head Coach..
I can think of a few coaches,I'd rather have, however I feel
we need an addition of an attack coach,who has not been part of this club's fabric,since Cooke left.'"
Who did he spend 2 years under? Tony Smith? Why was Smith a proven coach then and who did he spend 2 years under to make him proven? |
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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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On wiki it's got
Tony Smith
Hudds/Sheffield 2001/2003
Leeds 2004/2007
Jon Sharp Hudds 2003/2008
Brian McDermott
Hudds ass 2003/2005
London 2006/2010
How did McDermott get "qualified" when he didn't, at that time, play under a proven coach?
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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?: |
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If I was McDermott I'd be seriously thinking of moving on. Only way is down from here for him.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Who did he spend 2 years under? Tony Smith? Why was Smith a proven coach then and who did he spend 2 years under to make him proven?'"
When Tony Smith took over at Huddersfield, he gelled them into a cohesive team, so he is proven as a Head Coach.-IMO
He must have been good, for Leeds to entice him away under contract,and move Powell 'upstairs'. |
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| Quote: ccs "McDermott wasn't the most popular guy at Harlequins, it seems, ring any bells?
Only four pages?! Poor effort. We can (and have) done lots better! 
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| Quote: Doc Brown "Only four pages?! Poor effort. We can (and have) done lots better! ![]()
Try the Leeds forum... there's plenty more on there.
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| Quote: weaver93 "When Tony Smith took over at Huddersfield, he gelled them into a cohesive team, so he is proven as a Head Coach.-IMO
He must have been good, for Leeds to entice him away under contract,and move Powell 'upstairs'.'"
I think what Sheldon's saying is that McDermott served as assistant under an uproven head coach at Huddersfield ie John Sharpe, not Tony Smith, then went onto London as an unproven head coach. |
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| Quote: ccs "McDermott wasn't the most popular guy at Harlequins, it seems, ring any bells?
Reading through that is frightening as there's so many similarities there between Harlequins and what we appear to be going through. Some on there were talking about lack of ideas, poor tackling, failing to support etc and a need for an attacking coach. And it sounds like BM was as puzzled as Radders is now as to why it happens and what can be done to fix it.
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Quote: Armavinit "I think what Sheldon's saying is that McDermott served as assistant under an uproven head coach at Huddersfield ie John Sharpe, not Tony Smith, then went onto London as an unproven head coach.'"
Ah right......
McDermott worked 4 years under Tony Smith in total.
(1 year at Hudds.3 year at Leeds)
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Quote: Armavinit "I think what Sheldon's saying is that McDermott served as assistant under an uproven head coach at Huddersfield ie John Sharpe, not Tony Smith, then went onto London as an unproven head coach.'"
Ah right......
McDermott worked 4 years under Tony Smith in total.
(1 year at Hudds.3 year at Leeds)
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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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Regards,
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| Quote: weaver93 "When Tony Smith took over at Huddersfield, he gelled them into a cohesive team, so he is proven as a Head Coach.-IMO
He must have been good, for Leeds to entice him away under contract,and move Powell 'upstairs'.'"
He got them relegated and lost a record 13 in a row.
I'd say gentle got us gelled into a cohesive side.
What about Maguire? When Wigan appointed him he wasn't qualified. In fact he'd never been a first team coach before. Therefore how did Wane get qualified? |
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I don't think anyone would argue that Radford was appointed as a head coach way too soon in his career, and not one Hull fan would say they were happy with what we've done under his tenure these past two seasons.
That said, there are facets of our game that are good, such as our meter making, field position & defence, but other (probably more important) elements of our game that are substandard. Radford IMO isn't a bad coach, but he hasn't yet proven he's a good one either, and needs help, whether that me more experience on the coaching staff or an attacking expert.
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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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Regards,
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| Quote: weaver93 "Ah right......
McDermott worked 4 years under Tony Smith in total.
(1 year at Hudds.3 year at Leeds)
You were the one who said he spent 2 years under a head coach, wiki was a bit mis leading as well.
Either or, Smith wasn't proven to start with.
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