As touched on in another thread…

It sounds as if the current coaching methods at this club is a shambles.

I suppose it may be his style, but it appears that Tony is incredibly laid back in his approach to training, to the extent where we go into games without even having a game plan (kicking early in sets, targeting a teams weaknesses,etc). Told on good authority that a player who I won’t name had gone a couple weeks without even having a conversation with Tony, how are players supposed to improve and “right their wrongs” as we have been told they are trying to when the coach doesn’t even go out their way to speak to a regular first team player?

I didn’t get the impression that the player’s particularly get on well with the coaching staff either, with one of the coaches been branded ‘a weirdo’.

I was delighted we got him at the time, but it just feels like Tony is too passive, Rovers players are genuinely scared on Willie Peters, they rarely go out on the lash because of how strict they know he can be, call it tough but that’s how it should be and I can’t help but think we would be at least making a better fist of it if we had a coach with that type of mindset.

Remember Peter sharp dropping Raynor for being late for training and he’d been in charge about a month and the “story” about Danny Brough.

To be fair anybody would be scared to go out on the lash with Willie Peters.

Is Tony Smith our Boy George

He’s trying to focus on

Culture Club !!!

The guy has had the worst injury list and worst suspension list than any other coach for the opening of the season. And he didn't have the strongest of squads to start with.

while i understand the disappoitntment and embarassment of our start to the season, I'm happy to let him be the one to turn it around. i dont see what changing coach will achieve at this point, I think the guy is doing it tough at the moment and I want to see how he rises to the challenge over the coming months.

Lee Radford had banners made for his sacking before he went on to create the greatest days in Hull FC days as fans..

Manchester United fans wanted Sir Alex out in the late 80s. And he went on to outdo Sir Matt Busby.

sometimes you have to experience the lowest points to realise the oppertunties that are availlable.

Just like any team, if we had our best players on the field consistantly, then we'd compete consistsntly

Wow been waiting for a club rallying call but never thought AP would do it on this forum

If this season so far was a game of poker, then Smith has beenn dealt a hand of 7 2 every week. And I hate to feel sorry for ourselves, and make excuses. But the facts are that every single game so far this season we've been dealt a hand of 7 2. We were into the loan market after week 3 of the season.

Hull probably have been unlucky with injuries and suspensions so far, but then is it luck or does it come down to training? Or a lack of it?
FC don't look fit, and when your not fit the fatigue soon kicks in, then the penalties and indiscipline follow, as do the injuries.
Jake Clifford just told you all about how easy pre season was under Toys out,
You need someone that's gonna crack the whip and get the players working hard and fully fit, oh and culture is great but attitude is better
Dont tell TS that though or he'll banish you to train the academy (Danny McGuire) or he'll just sack you off (Gareth Ellis) and surround himself with YES men.

Pre seasons obviously finished now so he has no real chance of getting your lads much fitter either, just ticking over what there already doing.

LOL, yeah my post did turn into a bit of a rallying call but I can't help the way I feel. We need to come together as a club and as supporters we canonly do the part we are responsible for.... support to the vest of our abilities. With respect, do you have an alternative approach?

I’ve been labelled by some on here as a”happy clapper” and a club apologist. I renew my pass with direct debit, I recently renewed my Hull Live subscription at the full price even though as a pass holder you can get for half, plus all games are on tv. I do sit at the MKM in stunned silence, politely shaking my head, unfortunately your call for fans to be more animated isn’t going to happen with the dross being served up now and for the last 7 years. I don’t think there is an alternate approach. AP and TS are extracting the maximum amount of urine possible and it’s going to bleed the passion from a fan base that can only take so much this season because the club’s attitude has been the same for a considerable amount of time. I’ll renew my passes because that’s what I do but far too many will not , that’s a fact and a fair chunk will not be induced to return. The silence from the club is deafening, and many “loyal supporters” feel disenfranchised, it’s the club that needs to come up with a different approach, not me. Your post was a rallying call falling on deaf ears, even though I had my hearing aids in.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... n=sharebar The weekly "we need to learn" article, bit of a dig at supporters turning on the team too "the loyal supporters will stick with us"...give us something to make us stick with you Tony, 100% effort from all players and we will, half ar$ed tackling, defensive gaps wider than a Chinese motorway and our only attacking being kick to a winger that isn't chasing for a ball, then no a lot of us won't stick with you

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... n=sharebar The weekly "we need to learn" article, bit of a dig at supporters turning on the team too "the loyal supporters will stick with us"...give us something to make us stick with you Tony, 100% effort from all players and we will, half ar$ed tackling, defensive gaps wider than a Chinese motorway and our only attacking being kick to a winger that isn't chasing for a ball, then no a lot of us won't stick with you

He really doesn't sound confident at all reading that:

"That's sometimes where you see spirit, determination and people dig in. Sometimes being written off can be a good thing." Sometimes?! If he can't get the players up for a derby and the players can't get get themselves up for a derby then it's already lost.

"We'll see what we can do about it, but when you get it right and you turn things around, it's quite sweet. We've got a bit of work to do before we get to that stage." It's not about seeing what you can do, it's about doing it. That's your job Tony. And talking about needing to do a bit of work to get to the stage certainly doesn't sound like you think we'll be at that stage by Friday.

"We’ve got to keep putting them out there and asking them to perform really well. We’ll get through this when we get some more troops back and we can relive people of some pressure." Again it sounds like he's writing things off and hoping that returning players will be the one's to turn it around