Wouldn't surprise me at all. If the RFL do decide to hold a full enquiry it might turn up some very interesting stuff.

Totally agree.

There have been sanctions - against the people who committed the offences. All three of them have very likely had their careers terminated. What extra deterrent would it be for people who weren't even at the club at the time to be sanctioned?

Any punishment will be for bringing the game into disrepute rather than the offences that took place.

Plenty of deterrent at Hull and other clubs to not do anything in the future if it means a fine or points deduction. Otherwise you just get some other sap to be the fall guy next time

Quote: "SEAN LONG is said to be 'devastated' at being caught up in the drugs scandal that led to best pal Martin Gleeson getting suspended. '" www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -Long.html

Quote: "SEAN LONG is said to be 'devastated' at being caught up in the drugs scandal that led to best pal Martin Gleeson getting suspended. '" www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -Long.html

wonder if "uncle kath" will come to the k.c nxt season any time or just when leeds play us ???

A few thoughts...

What puzzles me about this affair is the behaviour of James Rule in that what he has done seems so stupid and irrational. In Gleeson's case, the whole affair is easily explained by his proven record of being dim and naive off the field.

James Rule, however, whatever his faults, is not stupid, so this leads one to wonder if there is a lot more "behind" this than the public findings display.

Talking of behind, again whatever his faults, don't think Rule should carry the can for the empolyment and retention of Agar. It was Kath Hetherington who stood squarely behind him.

As for Agar's role in the affair, at least we should look at what was (presumably) his selection of someone so clearly second rate in the vital role of conditioner. Watching the games you often wondered how our conditioning stacked up against the top sides, think it is safe to say that someone who can't even check a supplement on a website is unlikely to be at the cutting edge of strength and conditioning. Pleased that our new conditioner is clearly from a different intellectual level, someone who on this basis would not have been employed by Agar!

In a sad way I kind of hope they investigate it further because I feel sure they would find that someone else was pulling the strings, as has already been said JR is no fool and he must have had some support/pressure from above.

Do you wait until you get a bag of chips and then read the newspaper they're wrapped in?

He read in online fishy'ead.Not outta chip wrappings.

They don't wrap chips in newspapers any more. Was banned years ago

He doesnt get out jake.

If Kath and co were still here that'd be valid. How much of a deterrent is it to folk who weren't involved in the first place?

Which brings us neatly back to the question of individual versus corporate responsibility.

The people who brought the game into disrepute are no longer at the club. If the club is found to have a corporate responsibility then the RFL would have to go after Kath and the other ex board members or be open to challenge. Can you see them doing that?