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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
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| Are a few squash courts, a gym, Hull City's new training facilities, a Burger King and a whole load of commercial buildings standing empty 'cos nobody want to rent them a conceivable income generator to maintain a council chuck-away of 40 Mill and a mortgage of another 80 Mill?
I suggest Assem waits until all the commercial lets in the much more asthetically appealing Humber Quays complex are rented and Albert Ave swimming pool, Costello, and the Pearson Park bowling green are buzzing to the extent that further investment is necessary. He may gain a bit of credibility to his argument that the lack of a few sporting and commercial facilities are all that are "holding the city back".
Face it, a housing and minor commercial development is hiding behind the smokescreen here.
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| Quote: WormInHand "Are a few squash courts, a gym, Hull City's new training facilities, a Burger King and a whole load of commercial buildings standing empty 'cos nobody want to rent them a conceivable income generator to maintain a council chuck-away of 40 Mill and a mortgage of another 80 Mill?
I suggest Assem waits until all the commercial lets in the much more asthetically appealing Humber Quays complex are rented and Albert Ave swimming pool, Costello, and the Pearson Park bowling green are buzzing to the extent that further investment is necessary. He may gain a bit of credibility to his argument that the lack of a few sporting and commercial facilities are all that are "holding the city back".
Face it, a housing and minor commercial development is hiding behind the smokescreen here.'"
You're not thinking of the kids. The huge Tescos on West Park will see the number of Asbos in the city drop by 80%. Honestly, woman, don't you listen?
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| What's with the mans obsession with Squash Courts. Always had this down as a sport which would probably not be played by street corner hoodies. Is there some sort of underground squash movement going on that we're not aware of. Hmmm, maybe Allam is more 'down wid it' then we give him credit for
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Quote: Farmer Giles "What's with the mans obsession with Squash Courts. Always had this down as a sport which would probably not be played by street corner hoodies. Is there some sort of underground squash movement going on that we're not aware of. Hmmm, maybe Allam is more 'down wid it' then we give him credit for
I reckon it's a legal place to go where kids previously destined for Asbos are able to squash each other flat under controlled conditions. Nowt to do with bats and balls.
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| Quote: WormInHand "I reckon it's a legal place to go where kids previously destined for Asbos are able to squash each other flat under controlled conditions. Nowt to do with bats and balls.'"
What, like a supervised version of 'All pile on', hmmm think your on to something there
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| Quote: Farmer Giles "What, like a supervised version of 'All pile on', hmmm think your on to something there
Just you wait until we're in The Reealio Grand Final. We could be Eggettybudge World Champions yet
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| Quote: cod'ead "Just you wait until we're in The Reealio Grand Final. We could be Eggettybudge World Champions yet'"
Ah.......... eggettybudge.........
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| Quote: Farmer Giles "What's with the mans obsession with Squash Courts. Always had this down as a sport which would probably not be played by street corner hoodies. Is there some sort of underground squash movement going on that we're not aware of. Hmmm, maybe Allam is more 'down wid it' then we give him credit for
the first rule of squash club, is .......
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| Quote: My Uncle Harry "If you went to the Council with a £150 million scheme, I'd expect them to listen and to weigh up the options, but if you think these sort of schemes start of with anything other than broad generic values based on previous builds, there's little wonder you're confused.'"
I'm off to the council with my £150m scheme as I type. The fact that it's all pie in the sky with no funding streams in place, and relies on me getting ownership of a public asset, means, I suspect, that I'll get short shrift, like your mate did.
Maybe I should park up somewhere and actually think it through before going to the decision makers with my "broad generic values based on previous builds".
As I said, nothing to stop him going back with a better more thought out proposal. I imagine he's working on it right now, even before the toys get put back in the pram.
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I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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| I've got a plan to turn Vicky Square bogs into a nightclub. It should keep drunkenness underground.
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| Quote: Chris28 "I'm off to the council with my £150m scheme as I type. The fact that it's all pie in the sky with no funding streams in place, and relies on me getting ownership of a public asset, means, I suspect, that I'll get short shrift, like your mate did.
Maybe I should park up somewhere and actually think it through before going to the decision makers with my "broad generic values based on previous builds".
As I said, nothing to stop him going back with a better more thought out proposal. I imagine he's working on it right now, even before the toys get put back in the pram.'"
Rather depends on how much you value democracy I suppose.
One Cllr, without recourse to his electorate or the committee he represents, and against the published views of his party and Council leader decided the land's not for sale before he'd even heard the proposals.
As I said in my first post on this thread, small minded people putting their own prejudices before forward thinking have held this City back for years. That's not to say the stadium should be sold or the sports village built, but at least it should have been discussed. Not only has the current debate affected this investment, but it could well affect potential future investors who see the poor way this was dealt with.
There seems to be a group on here that can't see beyond being for or against a proposal that hasn't even been offered, prefering to take the discredited comments of someone that simply wasn't prepared to listen.
It leaves the Council needing to find funding to redevelop the area, something they said they'd do when the Stadium was first proposed. Who knows, maybe a self made millionaire will come forward with a scheme? They've been tripping over themselves for years to do that haven't they?
Out of interest, as the Council overpaid for the Boulevard and gifted a £40 million+ stadium to Hull FC, with no contribution from the Club or RL, should the profits be paid back to the Council until the amount plus interest is repaid?
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| Quote: My Uncle Harry "Rather depends on how much you value democracy I suppose.
One Cllr, without recourse to his electorate or the committee he represents, and against the published views of his party and Council leader decided the land's not for sale before he'd even heard the proposals. '"
Has anyone heard the proposals? Has Mr A actually made any formal proposals? My reading of it is that Geraghty has said the KC is not for sale to Allam because the reasons put forward aren't good enough, or even in existence.
Quote: My Uncle Harry "As I said in my first post on this thread, small minded people putting their own prejudices before forward thinking have held this City back for years. That's not to say the stadium should be sold or the sports village built, but at least it should have been discussed. Not only has the current debate affected this investment, but it could well affect potential future investors who see the poor way this was dealt with.
There seems to be a group on here that can't see beyond being for or against a proposal that hasn't even been offered, prefering to take the discredited comments of someone that simply wasn't prepared to listen. '"
Fair points.
Quote: My Uncle Harry "It leaves the Council needing to find funding to redevelop the area, something they said they'd do when the Stadium was first proposed. Who knows, maybe a self made millionaire will come forward with a scheme? They've been tripping over themselves for years to do that haven't they? '"
Which bit of the area? West Park itself looks OK. If you mean Anlaby Road, then I agree it does need some redevelopment. Do Allam's "plans" include that?
Quote: My Uncle Harry "Out of interest, as the Council overpaid for the Boulevard and gifted a £40 million+ stadium to Hull FC, with no contribution from the Club or RL, should the profits be paid back to the Council until the amount plus interest is repaid?'"
So it's our stadium now and we let City play in it? Glad we've got that sorted
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| Quote: Chris28 "Has anyone heard the proposals? Has Mr A actually made any formal proposals? My reading of it is that Geraghty has said the KC is not for sale to Allam because the reasons put forward aren't good enough, or even in existence.
Well Adam Pearson for one is aware of quite a bit more detail than seems to have come out in the fractious three hours Mr Alam spent with the Council, and he seems to fully support it so I guess the Cllr should have been a tad more patient?
Fair points.
Which bit of the area? West Park itself looks OK. If you mean Anlaby Road, then I agree it does need some redevelopment. Do Allam's "plans" include that?
West Park's in decline, but I guess there's no accounting for taste if you see Walton Street car park as a tourist attraction.
So it's our stadium now and we let City play in it? Glad we've got that sorted
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