Salford have just lost Sio. Another blow for them

I would say devil is in the detail, if we are competing in games and in particular performing in August/September but still miss out in the 6 id be ok with that. I think 7th-11th will be heavily impacted by injuries and suspensions theres not a lot to split the squads.

But if irs the usual flatter to deceive early in the season then down tools from August then I will be asking serious questions.

Very big blow for them, he haa consistently scored tries in some mediocre teams

We won't pay a transfer, doubt Burgess or Philbin would move to Hull either.

Fages has just signed for Catalans, Currie a new 3 year contract.

Garcia will stay at Catalans.

Good player but at 33 on the quota, gives them some options, bet they will sign Olpherts though.

Cator got run over a few times last season

He'll follow likes of Jack logan, bowden, Chris Green etc in dropping to championship once they leave us

We need to drop this "hull born and bred" cause likes of lane, cator and Fash are the weak links and nothing will change whilst they stay with us

Imagine ellis minichello and manu playing against them 3

For me I can't see past Wigan to dominate in 2024 as their squad looks very good with quality and depth a plenty.

Beyond that St's will no doubt likely be next, then I think its a bit of an unknown for 3rd to 6th.
Catalans have recruited well but lost some significant & influential players in Pearce, Tomkins, Keighran along with Sam Moa in the coaching dept so think they'll have some adjusting to do.
Leeds have recruited well with the likes of Croft, Millar and Ackers but Frawley could go either way and they still look light in the forwards.
Warrington under Burgess could be a masterstroke or an absolute train wreck
Rovers & Leigh again decent squads with the pressure on both to back up the performances of last season and improve.
Ourselves, Cas and Huddersfield will be looking to improve on last seasons poor performances.
Salford not sure how they'll go with the issues theyve had to deal with and the loss of Croft & Ackers in particular.
London are really a complete unknown.

So for me I think it will be

1. Wigan
2. St's
3rd to 10th could be any order
11. Cas
12. London

Think we'll be somewhere between 9th and 7th in all honesty but could well surprise a few a do a little better.

Errr Wakey are now in the Championship!

Only until the restructure next season, and Bowden has still not played in it yet! He's correct about Logan but the other two did not leave us and drop straight into the Championship.

Wigan
St Helens
Hull KR
Catalans
Leigh
Leeds
Warrington
Hull
Huddersfield
Salford
Castleford
London

Revised idea:, given the front row, which could be a formidable pack, obviously the depth in the centres is a bit concerning, but with our strongest 17 if they all click we could go well.

Wigan (by some distance)
St Helens (could see them creaking last year and all a year older now)
Catalans (still got some real quality there)
Leeds (good signings)
Hull KR (Pack isn't strongest but some back division)
Leigh (injuries may derail them but if not could go as high as 4th)
Hull (improvement on 10th)
Warrington (still think they'll have a soft underbelly)
Huddersfield (Watson has to deliver but not sure he can, squad average age a worry)
Castleford (big gamble on squad age average 31)
Salford (don't think they'll retain their stars, would go for Watkins and Lafai for a year)
London (may win a few but cannon fodder in reality for the big boys)

Its not just the strength and quality at Wigan its also the pace they have in the team
Bit frightening really especially when the pitches start to firm up

I do understand the regular posters concern over our 2nd row,
We will be considerably bigger, younger and arguably faster next season. Off the back of that I’d expect to see our 2nd row look much better.
The likes of jebson severs Staveley aren’t exactly small either.
Can’t see why we won’t be in the top 6.
Expectations are high with the dobbins
I personally think they will struggle.
They’ve lost key leaders. Absolutely got battered in the semi by wigan.
Think they and Leigh did well on the back of saints Leeds wire giants having such a poor season.
First time in a few years that I’m looking forward to seeing our new look team.

Second row is weak...Okunbur is an unknown quantity, he's only played second row for a couple of seasons having been a winger, then you've got Ashworth who again is unknown and used a prop previously, Lane isn't super league standard and staveley and severs aren't SL quality yet