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Quote: easthullwesty "Equality of opportunity or outcome.
It makes it harder no doubt, but certainly not impossible. There are cultural issues within these communities that compound racial problems that they no doubt experience. But again, what structures are in place specifically to keep black people down?'"
It's less obvious in the UK, and is mainly class based, but there are a few thing easily pointed out;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417 - Here BAME people have to apply to on average 60% more roles, changing your name can give instant positive results
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/ma ... acial-bias - Here Black people are 40x more likely to be stopped and searched by Police
So straight away its harder to get a job, and you are less likely to trust the establishment and feel marginalized just by existing
I'm a working class white guy who worked hard and did OK, it takes nothing away from me appreciating that its harder for others than it was for me. I don't want it to be hard for anyone. |
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Quote: easthullwesty "Equality of opportunity or outcome.
It makes it harder no doubt, but certainly not impossible. There are cultural issues within these communities that compound racial problems that they no doubt experience. But again, what structures are in place specifically to keep black people down?'"
It's less obvious in the UK, and is mainly class based, but there are a few thing easily pointed out;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417 - Here BAME people have to apply to on average 60% more roles, changing your name can give instant positive results
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/ma ... acial-bias - Here Black people are 40x more likely to be stopped and searched by Police
So straight away its harder to get a job, and you are less likely to trust the establishment and feel marginalized just by existing
I'm a working class white guy who worked hard and did OK, it takes nothing away from me appreciating that its harder for others than it was for me. I don't want it to be hard for anyone. | |
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| Quote: OmneFC "It's less obvious in the UK, and is mainly class based, but there are a few thing easily pointed out;
If the Blacks in particularly London stopped carry weapons,stabbing people,robbing pedestrians using motor scooters,and recruiting young kids to deal their drugs then im certain the stop and search percentage would come down drastically.Until then there is only one way it is going and thats up.
With regard to employment it should always be the best candidate for the job.
I agree its more difficult for a Black people in certain areas of employment but that doesnt mean that we should fast track Blacks into positions for the wrong reasons.
Its not so long ago that media news channels like Sky and the BBC fast tracked Muslims into high profile positions and the same will now probably apply to Blacks.
That in my opinion is wrong.
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| Quote: OmneFC "It's less obvious in the UK, and is mainly class based, but there are a few thing easily pointed out;
The minute you quote the leftist BBC and Guardian (owned originally by a slave owner) tells me everything to know about your narrative.
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Quote: IR80 "The minute you quote the leftist BBC and Guardian (owned originally by a slave owner) tells me everything to know about your narrative.'"
Apologies, maybe I should have chosen news sources outside of those deemed the most trustworthy in the country
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Quote: IR80 "The minute you quote the leftist BBC and Guardian (owned originally by a slave owner) tells me everything to know about your narrative.'"
Apologies, maybe I should have chosen news sources outside of those deemed the most trustworthy in the country
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... report.pdf | |
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| Quote: IR80 "The minute you quote the leftist BBC and Guardian (owned originally by a slave owner) tells me everything to know about your narrative.'"
Just out of curiosity, what do you regard as centrist or, failing that, legitimate news sources?
The founder of the Manchester Guardian was a mill owner who bought cotton from slave plantations, rather than being a slave owner himself. According to Wikipedia, anyway. [iPossibly[/i a fine distinction, but an example of how central to the British economy the profits of slavery were at that time. |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Just out of curiosity, what do you regard as centrist or, failing that, legitimate news sources?
The founder of the Manchester Guardian was a mill owner who bought cotton from slave plantations, rather than being a slave owner himself. According to Wikipedia, anyway. [iPossibly[/i a fine distinction, but an example of how central to the British economy the profits of slavery were at that time.'"
That is the problem now M.R, there is no centrist or legitimate news, they all have editorial slant and leanings toward where the funds come from.
I agree 100% about the slavery issue, I just find The Guardian incredibly hypocritical, and the people that read it to be somewhat holier than thou. |
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| Quote: OmneFC "Apologies, maybe I should have chosen news sources outside of those deemed the most trustworthy in the country
Means nothing, a huge %ge of the population believe in religion.
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| Quote: IR80 "Means nothing, a huge %ge of the population believe in religion.'"
an activity that someone is extremely enthusiastic about and does regularly |
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| Quote: Isaiah "https
words can be twisted to suit most arguments, especially when used out of context.
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| Quote: IR80 "words can be twisted to suit most arguments, especially when used out of context.'"
For sure.
We can have dossiers and files implicating countries of harbouring weapons of mass destruction innit?
Go across and murder tens of thousands of innocent women and children.
If it needs to fit , it'll be made to fit.
Anyways, were still waiting for where you garner your wholly neutral news info? |
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Way off-topic but I find the widely varying perception of the BBC fascinating.
The far left seem to denounce it as a right wing govt mouthpiece and at the same time many on the right scream that it's too left leaning.
The implication then is it's fairly centrist in its outlook.
It's far from a perfect institution and I think it's has become a little too obsessed with appearing 'balanced' but it seems to have a far less pronounced editorial slant than many news sources out there.
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| Quote: IR80 "words can be twisted to suit most arguments, especially when used out of context.'"
I hadn't added or twisted any words? It was straight from Cambridge dictionary |
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| Quote: Isaiah "I hadn't added or twisted any words? It was straight from Cambridge dictionary'"
you completely missed my point, but it happens when you are more obsessed with who posted as opposed to the post itself. |
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