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| hulls problem is more than down to indiviuals,we are as good as any team away from home,but we have a serious attitude problem playing at the kc,its also not just this season,but has been the same for a few years now.until we sort it,we will never be consistant enough to do well in the league.what the answer is I dont know,but it needs addressing.
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| Quote: fosdyke99 "hulls problem is more than down to indiviuals,we are as good as any team away from home,but we have a serious attitude problem playing at the kc,its also not just this season,but has been the same for a few years now.until we sort it,we will never be consistant enough to do well in the league.what the answer is I dont know,but it needs addressing.'"
Maybe the players don't feel the fans have their back when the chips are down.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Maybe the players don't feel the fans have their back when the chips are down.'"
If they're that fragile I suggest they consider a career change
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Sure. Not like it's a stressful career.
plenty of much more stressful jobs out there
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Maybe the players don't feel the fans have their back when the chips are down.'"
To be fair I think the fans have been pretty supportive, even when we had that horrendous losing run last year. The “poor atmosphere at the KCom” is a cop out to be honest.
If they feel pressure, it’s the price you pay for playing for a big club with passionate fans. Can always go and play for London where the atmosphere might be more forgiving.
They also play for a coach with high expectations who tells it as it is - pretty much like the fanbase!
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Sure. Not like it's a stressful career.
Yeh really conclusive that 1200 person survey, complete joke
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "To be fair I think the fans have been pretty supportive, even when we had that horrendous losing run last year. The “poor atmosphere at the KCom” is a cop out to be honest.
If they feel pressure, it’s the price you pay for playing for a big club with passionate fans. Can always go and play for London where the atmosphere might be more forgiving.
They also play for a coach with high expectations who tells it as it is - pretty much like the fanbase!'"
I haven't seen a convincing articulation of why our away form is better than our home form. This is just one suggestion. Understand it may not be a popular one.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Sure. Not like it's a stressful career.
What a load of bull.
That has nothing to do with Hull FC, people who exercise or work in sport!!!!
Really scraping with that excuse.
There are more stressful and dangerous jobs out there.
These guys are earning a living from playing a sport they love.
Lee can't legislate or be held accountable for individual errors but as a collective he is responsible for the attacking and defensive structure and game plan implementation.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "What a load of bull.
That has nothing to do with Hull FC, people who exercise or work in sport!!!!
Really scraping with that excuse.
There are more stressful and dangerous jobs out there.
These guys are earning a living from playing a sport they love.
Lee can't legislate or be held accountable for individual errors but as a collective he is responsible for the attacking and defensive structure and game plan implementation.'"
I don't think anyone is claiming the job of a professional sportsman is the "most stressful or dangerous", that's a red herring. The point we are discussing is that the team can and does perform better away from the KCOM - I imagine our away record is as good as anyone's this season apart from Saints, which shows what we are capable of. It's not outrageous to suggest one hypothesis could be that the atmosphere is less supportive at home. It may not be a popular hypothesis but it's not outrageous.
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| I'd bring in Paul Cooke to be our attacking coach the guy has a great knowledge of the game and was our best attacking player for years. Agree with most points Wildie, I'd like to see Connor at 1 for a few games.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I don't think anyone is claiming the job of a professional sportsman is the "most stressful or dangerous", that's a red herring. The point we are discussing is that the team can and does perform better away from the KCOM - I imagine our away record is as good as anyone's this season apart from Saints, which shows what we are capable of. It's not outrageous to suggest one hypothesis could be that the atmosphere is less supportive at home. It may not be a popular hypothesis but it's not outrageous.'"
It's not really unpopular or outrageous but is over simplistic. The match day atmosphere tends to be the result of team performance, not the cause.
We play well in patches this year of 15-20 minutes (at home, at least). If we score enough points in that patch we tend to win, if not we tend to lose. Plenty of examples of us racking up points quickly then switching off. I'd say this is down to mental approach rather than anything the crowd does. Maybe it's our preparation and/or mentality for away games which is the difference. I also think radford has talked up the kcom effect too much and it maybe plays on the players minds..
One thing is for certain, if we'd been anywhere near as good at home as we have been away, we'd be a long way clear in 2nd now.
Anyway, all this trying to put the blame on the fans is moving the discussion away from (I'm sure that was the intention) the real discussion here
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| Quote: Ellam "I'd bring in Paul Cooke to be our attacking coach the guy has a great knowledge of the game and was our best attacking player for years. Agree with most points Wildie, I'd like to see Connor at 1 for a few games.'"
I'd have cooke nowhere near this team. We need fresh ideas, not another old boy mate of radford's with nothing new to bring to the table, plus he's hardly set the coaching world alight in his past jobs
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "It's not really unpopular or outrageous but is over simplistic. The match day atmosphere tends to be the result of team performance, not the cause.
We play well in patches this year of 15-20 minutes (at home, at least). If we score enough points in that patch we tend to win, if not we tend to lose. Plenty of examples of us racking up points quickly then switching off. I'd say this is down to mental approach rather than anything the crowd does. Maybe it's our preparation and/or mentality for away games which is the difference. I also think radford has talked up the kcom effect too much and it maybe plays on the players minds..
One thing is for certain, if we'd been anywhere near as good at home as we have been away, we'd be a long way clear in 2nd now.
Anyway, all this trying to put the blame on the fans is moving the discussion away from (I'm sure that was the intention) the real discussion here'"
"All of this trying to put the blame on the fans"? I'm agreeing with you that our away form has been really good so it's not a question of capability. The question we're trying to answer is why this isn't replicated at home. Of.course there will be more than one factor, and it's not been suggested otherwise. The difference in support could be one. Certainly feels a different experience as a supporter and that's been the case for a few years, with different mixes of home and away success.
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