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| how many locals attend?half a dozen?.
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| Quote: fosdyke99 "how many locals attend?half a dozen?.'"
I wouldn't know, I don't tend go round checking out if they're talking with a Geordie accent
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| Am I right in saying that Dewsbury were refused promotion to Super League about 15 years ago because their stadium only had 2 stands?
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| it might be a good weekend out for regulars ,but it was originally to take the game to different areas and get the locals to attend.its amazing to think that a team from Canada is desperate to get into super league,yet I don't see them queuing up in Newcastle to get a sl franchise.
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| Quote: fosdyke99 "it might be a good weekend out for regulars ,but it was originally to take the game to different areas and get the locals to attend.its amazing to think that a team from Canada is desperate to get into super league,yet I don't see them queuing up in Newcastle to get a sl franchise.'"
That would be because franchises don't exist anymore.
You cannot say that MW is a failure because it doesn't get locals involved. The fact that Newcastle bid yearly for the event shows how much the area loves having us there and tbh, I couldn't care less where the attendees come from postcode wise, it's a great event that showcases what's truly special about our sport and that's the fact that fans from all clubs can live together and have a great time both supporting their own clubs and others. That would never happen in football and it's something that I for one am very proud of.
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| Quote: Armavinit "Am I right in saying that Dewsbury were refused promotion to Super League about 15 years ago because their stadium only had 2 stands?'"
Just checked, Hunslet were refused entry in 1999 because their ground capacity was 4,000. Dewsbury were refused entry in 2000 even though they had made arrangements to play at Don Valley, whilst Ram Stadium was developed. Will Broncos go back to the Stoop?
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| theyve been granted dispensation this morning to put extra seating in I believe.
It would be interesting on the Magic point to measure media coverage compared to normal weekly rounds, plus a guarenteed game on TV for every club with excellent viewing figures will be a cornerstone of any marketing plans by clubs for sponsors ( or should be)
Newcastle do well on the friday night and get season high attendances. I do agree however there should be an element of new people targeted to the game, not just from newcastle but the full catchment area. Providing tickets to all amateur clubs to experience it should be part of the concept too.
I liked the idea of the championship game last year Imagine putting a Newcastle game vs game saturday - two birds one stone.
It can improve, however it's successful as it is in my eyes.
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| Quote: Karen "That would be because franchises don't exist anymore.
You cannot say that MW is a failure because it doesn't get locals involved. The fact that Newcastle bid yearly for the event shows how much the area loves having us there and tbh, I couldn't care less where the attendees come from postcode wise, it's a great event that showcases what's truly special about our sport and that's the fact that fans from all clubs can live together and have a great time both supporting their own clubs and others. That would never happen in football and it's something that I for one am very proud of.'"
As they have spoken about, seeding the Magic weekend, this will probably give Hull & Rovers a chance not to be left till last, and perhaps avoid the last Sunday spot, maybe they’ll leave that slot to London v Wigan
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| Quote: Armavinit "Just checked, Hunslet were refused entry in 1999 because their ground capacity was 4,000. Dewsbury were refused entry in 2000 even though they had made arrangements to play at Don Valley, whilst Ram Stadium was developed. Will Broncos go back to the Stoop?'"
Hunslet weren't refused entry.
Back then they had the choice to either make the necessary ground improvements required for SL or take a 1 off payment and remain in the same division.
They chose the latter.
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| Quote: Karen "The fact that Newcastle bid yearly for the event shows how much the area loves having us there and tbh'"
The reason Newcastle bid for it isn't RL related its simply economics as it brings in a lot of revenue to the area from outside so its win win for Newcastle.
The Magic weekend was we were led to believe at its inception a way to promote the game to areas and potential fans outside the M62 corridor which for me it has failed at doing and has now become a in reality just a gimmick. What purpose does it actually serve yes it can be said its a showcase of the sport of RL but for me thats not really true as it never seems to be marketed to target new fanbase instead relies on the people who are already fans of the game. So apart from giving Newcastle a revenue stream from the weekend being held at St James Park what real benefit does the Magic Weekend serve the game?
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| Quote: Chris71 "The reason Newcastle bid for it isn't RL related its simply economics as it brings in a lot of revenue to the area from outside so its win win for Newcastle.
The Magic weekend was we were led to believe at its inception a way to promote the game to areas and potential fans outside the M62 corridor which for me it has failed at doing and has now become a in reality just a gimmick. What purpose does it actually serve yes it can be said its a showcase of the sport of RL but for me thats not really true as it never seems to be marketed to target new fanbase instead relies on the people who are already fans of the game. So apart from giving Newcastle a revenue stream from the weekend being held at St James Park what real benefit does the Magic Weekend serve the game?'"
As I said earlier, without listening to every attendee's accent, we don't know how many are from the Newcastle area. What I do know is that it's a fantastic weekend, very cheap considering the amount of games you get to see, and a great way of showing off the sport. If it's not being marketed correctly, that isn't a flaw in the concept, it's a failing of the Marketing department at the RFL.
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| Quote: Chris71 "The reason Newcastle bid for it isn't RL related its simply economics as it brings in a lot of revenue to the area from outside so its win win for Newcastle.
The Magic weekend was we were led to believe at its inception a way to promote the game to areas and potential fans outside the M62 corridor which for me it has failed at doing and has now become a in reality just a gimmick. What purpose does it actually serve yes it can be said its a showcase of the sport of RL but for me thats not really true as it never seems to be marketed to target new fanbase instead relies on the people who are already fans of the game. So apart from giving Newcastle a revenue stream from the weekend being held at St James Park what real benefit does the Magic Weekend serve the game?'"
It brings money into the RFL coffers.
Newcastle just don't get the event for free.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "Quote: Bombed Out "The reason Newcastle bid for it isn't RL related its simply economics as it brings in a lot of revenue to the area from outside so its win win for Newcastle.
The Magic weekend was we were led to believe at its inception a way to promote the game to areas and potential fans outside the M62 corridor which for me it has failed at doing and has now become a in reality just a gimmick. What purpose does it actually serve yes it can be said its a showcase of the sport of RL but for me thats not really true as it never seems to be marketed to target new fanbase instead relies on the people who are already fans of the game. So apart from giving Newcastle a revenue stream from the weekend being held at St James Park what real benefit does the Magic Weekend serve the game?'"
It brings money into the RFL coffers.
Newcastle just don't get the event for free.'"
I know Newcastle don't get the event for free but what real benefit does the Magic Weekend serve to the game as whole other than a money making exercise? As I said it was claimed at its inception it was a target new areas and fan bases to grow the game but has it really done that? Are Gateshead packing new fans into there ground, are the kids of Newcastle & Sunderland getting involved in the game, is the junior game developing well in the North East? Again what has it done for RL in Wales & Scotland?
Its fine saying its great as fan already and that it brings money in but the sport to continue to grow and be sustainable need fans to attend the games on a regular basis. Attendances have been falling so the RL need to ask why and look at ways to address this before its becomes a bigger problem. You can only get so much milk from the same cow before there is nothing left.
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| Quote: "London allowed ground dispensation
RFL statement on London Broncos being allowed to start their 2019 Super League season at Trailfinders Sports Ground, which has a current capacity of 3,020.
London Broncos’ ground does not currently meet the Super League minimum standards relating to seating capacity.
“Accordingly, in accordance with the RFL Operational Rules, the club sought dispensation to be eligible for promotion to the Super League. On the basis of the submissions made and supporting documentation provided by the Club, the RFL Board determined that the Club should be granted a dispensation.
“The dispensation is on the basis that the club will increase the seating at its ground to more than the minimum capacity required in advance of the start of the season.”'"
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| Quote: Chris71 "I know Newcastle don't get the event for free but what real benefit does the Magic Weekend serve to the game as whole other than a money making exercise? As I said it was claimed at its inception it was a target new areas and fan bases to grow the game but has it really done that? Are Gateshead packing new fans into there ground, are the kids of Newcastle & Sunderland getting involved in the game, is the junior game developing well in the North East? Again what has it done for RL in Wales & Scotland?
Its fine saying its great as fan already and that it brings money in but the sport to continue to grow and be sustainable need fans to attend the games on a regular basis. Attendances have been falling so the RL need to ask why and look at ways to address this before its becomes a bigger problem. You can only get so much milk from the same cow before there is nothing left.'"
It makes money - that’s the core benefit of it. The rest is just PR sizzle I admit, and doesn’t stand up to much scrutiny. That’s why PR should be taken with a pinch of salt.
You’re right about the questions the sport needs to ask, but I don’t see why MW is an obstacle to that.
It’s worth bearing in mind that during the whole restructuring chairmen’s bunfight, not one of them advocated binning MW (that I saw, anyway).
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