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| Quote: Hessle Roader "Knockers Bump wrote
Maybe we need the Allams to buy Pearson out if we are to have the clout to get some big names
I actually laughed at something you wrote. Can you imagine the result of this happening. There'd be rioting in the streets!!
(I know you were tongue in cheek by the way)'" ]
Given what we know about how that family run things - despicable, shady, borderline legal being three of the more less colourful descriptives of them, I think it would tip even the most ardent fans.
I can't see them being interested anyway unless they thought it might gain them the purchase of the stadium, there's just not enough money in RL.
That said I wonder what Hull CC would be interested in selling the stadium for?
Given how they messed up badly, really, really badly by washing their hands of the running of the stadium to a private enterprise and the ridiculous terms for that management company plus the ongoing storm ever since, wouldn't they like to wash their hands of it once and for all for a decent wedge?
Would that sale have to be to the owner of the facilities company (currently SMC)?
A community buy out of the stadium possibly?
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "An investor is not a benefactor, you need to understand the very significant difference between the two (I actually mentioned a benefactor in my comment and gave you a big clue). Pearson did not have enough of his own money or more accurately did not want to buy the club solely with his money even IF he indeed had that which I do not believe he did given his previous forays. Either way he didn't buy the club on his own and the other investor/s nor Pearson are benefactors, they are in it to make money, hence the word INVESTOR, the same as the Hetherington's were/are.
HTH'"
Unless you have any evidence of that then it's pure speculation. pearson has said many times that it is his money alone that bought and fund the club
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Unless you have any evidence of that then it's pure speculation. pearson has said many times that it is his money alone that bought and fund the club'"
Thankyou that was the point of my post.
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| Back on post, yes we can compete but and it’s a big but, because of the millstone of the KC, which has been discussed many times, the clubs profit will always be limited. Adam Pearson has to be praised for taking on the poison challice of FC in the shared stadium with the Allams running it, espescially after his ingracious parting of the ways with said Allams at City. He must be very thick skinned or a true Bel13ver to want to deal with that despicable duo. He always said his aim was to make the club self supporting which I believe has happened the last 2 seasons with the help of Challenge Cup wins, not so sure about this season but the Aussie venture was supposed to be lucrative? People speculating about his aims or personal finances are out of order IMO.
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| In Adam we trust
Trust him to act like any businessman
We can only hope that success is what he needs to make a profit and thus he’s hell Bent on success
The team has been to inconsistent since he took the reins to be considered a raving success
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "In Adam we trust
Trust him to act like any businessman
We can only hope that success is what he needs to make a profit and thus he’s hell Bent on success
The team has been to inconsistent since he took the reins to be considered a raving success'"
Name a team in the SL and probably the NRL that hasn't been inconsistent the last 5 years, its the nature of the sport especially with the salary cap?
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| Wigan and Saints - only finished out of the Top 5 once in last 9 seasons and average finish place is 2-3rd plus CC and GF appearances to boot and WCC etc etc
NRL ? come on - Storm are the model of consistency with the greatest coach ever to coach the game. Wayne Bennett has a 10 -23 record against Bellamy.
Not sure why you asked me who's been consistent
Rovers - consistent shoite
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "Wigan and Saints - only finished out of the Top 5 once in last 9 seasons and average finish place is 2-3rd plus CC and GF appearances to boot and WCC etc etc
NRL ? come on - Storm are the model of consistency with the greatest coach ever to coach the game. Wayne Bennett has a 10 -23 record against Bellamy.
Not sure why you asked me who's been consistent
Rovers - consistent shoite'"
Storm pretty much cheated there way to the top.
I might be wrong but I'm sure since Pearson took over we have been as consistent as Saints and Wigan certainly over the last two years, where we have won more major to trophies than either of them.
You are also forgetting that Wigan, Leeds and Saints had a big head start on Hull, due to serious mis-management over the last few years
Without the injuries to key player we would easily be in the top 4 IMO.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Storm pretty much cheated there way to the top.
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Wow - that line is incredible. You asked who had been consistent in recent times. Well the Cap breach finished 8 years ago so for recent times Melbourne are still totally consistent disregarding the Cap breaches.
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| why do we go on and on about injuries ? Radford in the Mail today saying we are as good as anyone with a full team out.
Well we had a full team out in Wollongong and ????
Also he's living in cloud cuckoo land as we had a better team in 2016 and we were full strength almost every week - finished the same as last year with loads of injuries. So what does he want ?
Injuries are a smokescreen and a poor excuse. We are no unluckier nor luckier over a 5 years period than anyone else.
We have them ! get on with it FFS
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| Interesting to note the RFL have posted a £2m loss for 2017. No international home games explains some of the loss, but 3 home tests doesn't explain the full gap.
They are claiming they have invested for the future, but as much as I love this sport it has felt on a downward spiral for a while now.
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "why do we go on and on about injuries ? Radford in the Mail today saying we are as good as anyone with a full team out.
Well we had a full team out in Wollongong and ????
Also he's living in cloud cuckoo land as we had a better team in 2016 and we were full strength almost every week - finished the same as last year with loads of injuries. So what does he want ?
Injuries are a smokescreen and a poor excuse. We are no unluckier nor luckier over a 5 years period than anyone else.
We have them ! get on with it FFS'"
We didn't and we lost two key players early on, anyway that's one game, over the season if we had more luck with injuries we would be in the top 4, think of the top 6 teams, only us and Cas have suffered badly.
IMO our 2018 team is better than the 2016 team, the backs are much better IMO, certainly more depth, 2016 pack was better though.
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "Wow - that line is incredible. You asked who had been consistent in recent times. Well the Cap breach finished 8 years ago so for recent times Melbourne are still totally consistent disregarding the Cap breaches.'"
Them cheating helped them massively to get to where they are, that success form chaeting brings in money and players, which puts them on the front foot compared to other teams.
They also have no competition from any other rugby league team when it comes to development, imagine if Hull had the pick of every young player from Yorkshire.
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| Quote: Armavinit "Thankyou that was the point of my post.'"
He didn't have enough money, look at his past dealings, he simply never had the money to buy the club outright alone, even less so when he had his own money in other pies. It's irrelevant to the point I was making about financial decision making and you still failed to understand what a benefactor is as opposed to an investor, so it was you who went off topic bringing the subject up.
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| You think the 2018 side is better than the 2016 side ???
Mmmmmm
Ellis Fonua Watts Pritchard
Who’d we replace them with ?
Have another think again
This seasons side is leaderless without Ellis
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