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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "I'm far from his biggest fan but rather than just name calling him why not offer a counter argument?

Why should over 60s (especially those still in work) get in to games for less money than other adults?'"


Where did I say over 60's??? The old age pension is paid, as of now to men over 65 and women at between 60 & 65 as its gradually changing. I assume you mean over 60's for when the pension age for all women was 60? And if he can't work out why pensioners on a fixed income of £125.95 a week shouldn't get a concession then I'm not explaining it to him.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "I'm far from his biggest fan but rather than just name calling him why not offer a counter argument?

Why should over 60s (especially those still in work) get in to games for less money than other adults?'"



Is it because clubs value their seniors, and rewarding them for all the heartbreak they have endured icon_lol.gif

Or perhaps the gold watch syndrome for services rendered, or is it simply good business, a purely fiscal thing, as they say age is just a number, but like it not “come on you Ull” you have to wait till your 60 for the black & white discount, or if you support a certain other club in Hull, you must wear your ball and chain a further five years.

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Quote: Hull White Star "Where did I say over 60's??? The old age pension is paid, as of now to men over 65 and women at between 60 & 65 as its gradually changing. I assume you mean over 60's for when the pension age for all women was 60? And if he can't work out why pensioners on a fixed income of £125.95 a week shouldn't get a concession then I'm not explaining it to him.'"


No, I was asking you why over 60s (especially the ones who have yet to retire) should be able to get into games for less money than other adults?

You called him 'clueless' for not agreeing with the policy.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "No, I was asking you why over 60s (especially the ones who have yet to retire) should be able to get into games for less money than other adults?

You called him 'clueless' for not agreeing with the policy.'"


I didn't say 60, I said OAP's. And he is clueless if he doesn't realise how low the Old Age Pension is.

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Quote: Hull White Star "I didn't say 60, I said OAP's. And he is clueless if he doesn't realise how low the Old Age Pension is.'"


Bumpy doesn't think that over 60s should get a discount (I agree with him). You said he was 'clueless'.

Do you think people over 60 still in work (or for that matter those who have taken early retirement) should get a discount?

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Bumpy doesn't think that over 60s should get a discount (I agree with him). You said he was 'clueless'.

Do you think people over 60 still in work (or for that matter those who have taken early retirement) should get a discount?[/quotIt's like the winter fuel allowance, you still get it even if you're a millionaire!

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Bumpy doesn't think that over 60s should get a discount (I agree with him). You said he was 'clueless'.

Do you think people over 60 still in work (or for that matter those who have taken early retirement) should get a discount?'"



I think Old Age Pensioners should get a concession. I suggest you read my previous posts which I've explained what age group are OAP's.

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Quote: Hull White Star "I think Old Age Pensioners should get a concession. I suggest you read my previous posts which I've explained what age group are OAP's.'"

why should they?

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Concessions are age related, not income related which is where the issue of whether an individual deserves it or not is completely irrelevant. The standard pensioner earns very little, which is why the overall concession discounts are very helpful and gratefully received. However, as throughout working age life, there are always going to be pensioners that have savings/private pensions/investments etc that will mean that along with their probably mortgage free households, are actually very comfortable in retirement. There is absolutely no way that general concessions can be means tested, companies simply don't have the resources for that, therefore like it or not, OAP concessions are here to stay. I do agree with an above mentioned point though, in that they shouldn't be available until they are at state pension age.

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Quote: Leigh_Manning "why should they?'"


I've already explained that in my previous posts.

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Quote: Hull White Star "I think Old Age Pensioners should get a concession. I suggest you read my previous posts which I've explained what age group are OAP's.'"


I'm not sure many people refer to that age group as 'old age pensioners' anymore but I'm perfectly aware of the state retirement age, thanks. I don't see why everyone should get a discount at a certain age. Or bus passes for that matter.

You obviously won't answer my question about over 60s still in work getting a concession so I guess we'll just leave it there.

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Quote: Hull White Star "I've already explained that in my previous posts.'"

you haven't, not that I can see.

Karen's point is valid, it can't be means tested, but shouldf be in line with state pension age.

I know a lot of pensioners on way more than the fixed pension.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "I'm not sure many people refer to that age group as 'old age pensioners' anymore but I'm perfectly aware of the state retirement age, thanks. I don't see why everyone should get a discount at a certain age. Or bus passes for that matter.

You obviously won't answer my question about over 60s still in work getting a concession so I guess we'll just leave it there.'"


I already answered it, its not my fault if you didn't read it, but for your benefit I'll say it again.....they state pension is £125.95 a week. Most OAP's have no other means of earning any other income, ie thats why they call it having a fixed income. I suppose you'll be having a pop at the disabled next who are in an almost identical situation icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Leigh_Manning "you haven't, not that I can see.

Karen's point is valid, it can't be means tested, but shouldf be in line with state pension age.

I know a lot of pensioners on way more than the fixed pension.'"


I did, see my post above, I answered it a few posts back.

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