I appreciate forums are not always a great medium for communication, but that does come across a little bit like the club have not being trying.

The club are doing really well, hopefully 12k+ on Thursday, not sue what anyone means by "getting their act together", short of dragging people in off the street who happen to be passing!

Wigan blitz the town centre with their 20k challenge,the did it Las year V Warrington and I was there in July visiting relatives and it was all over et the match was a bit away.Wigan are really good at marketing games.Also on a different note,they have just unveiled a bronze statue of Billy Boston

we could also push the marketing a bit further out of our area as well - we are the only superleague team in a 50 mile or so radius.

I'd look at this the other way round, lets be positive and we need to get the club to a standard where we get a min of 1 final a year. Do you think Wigan and Warrington have the same ambition, AP has his work cut out with some fans...

two teams towards the top of the league, approx 15 miles apart. Not the most difficult of sells??

Maybe not but they still exceeded 20k easily,something we couldn't do with a derby.Wigan do target the big games though and id like to see us target a top game.

The Derby had lost its appeal due to the number of times we played them.

When you say Wigan target big games, how do they target them? What do they do which Hull don't to promote these games?

I think that Gareth O'Brien has created more than enough erections in West Hull.

And broken ribs...

Got to CHOOSE Leeds good friday for 20k if we can.

.....unless the SMC say otherwise.

Lineham was announced early June 2015, Westerman late OCtober 2015

Are FC still showing their players as £1.8m of intangible assets?