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| Most supporters I know are just enjoying the moment and not looking too far ahead.
Think we have acquired a cynicism over the years, and it seems to be going too well at the moment!
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "People seem to have this obsession with our supposedly massive team but IMO it's a bit of a myth. Our props are no bigger than most teams, our back rowers (pritchard apart) the same. We have the likes of washbrook, thompson and hadley playing regularly. ellis, manu and mini are the same size as most back rowers in SL and smaller than plenty. bowden and taylor are pretty big but no more than props elsewhere, green is big but probably the least effective of our props and watts is actually quite lean for a prop. In the backs we only really have the bin man and fonua who are bigger than average but no more than the likes of hall, sau, lineham, carney etc.
Where we seem to have an advantage is in technique, fitness and conditioning. We're not dropping off intensity towards the end of games and we play at a high tempo which is hard for most teams to live with. I don't think we're really doing anything much different to what the rest of SL are trying to do, we're just doing it more effectively'"
Washbrook, Hadley, Naughton, Talanoa and a few others look bigger than last year to me. Mrs B had a picture of Callum Lancaster at one point and he seemed to have bulked up considerably. They look fit and well conditioned too, though by the hour mark that might reflect more on how trampled the opposition are. Powerful rather than, big, if you prefer.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "So, Catalans, who were 8th after 23 rounds and 7th after 30 last year, will win a trophy, but it's beyond Hull?
I can understand if you're just reluctant to say something that might jinx it.
Or maybe the accusations of arrogance, have hit a nerve, just as you (hull fans generally) do have something to be confident about?
But rationally, on current form, it's very possible. I can imagine it happening, so it is definitely imaginable.'"
I fancied Catalans pre season, but then I have done for several years. Their recruitment for 2016 has been fabulous IMO. Totally accept the point on 2015 finish comparability, but I guess where I'm coming from is that they (in my head, might not be backed up in fact) have been a lot closer to the top than us in recent seasons. Maybe on the basis we've been miles off since Agar.
On the jinx/arrogance point, all I can say is that after a decade of disappointment, these are great times - in the moment - that realise feck all. History tells us it'll go tits up imminently, so whether it does or doesn't nothing can detract from the brightest three months in a decade. Those hoping and praying for us to fail can project unrealistic expectations onto us and joyously sneer at failure to deliver, but it matters not. I've got a dozen marvellous performances to keep me warm this winter and meanwhile we're top for another week and still in the cup. If others want to claim not winning a trophy is failure that's up to them, certainly not for me.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "
On the jinx/arrogance point, all I can say is that after a decade of disappointment, these are great times - in the moment - that realise feck all. History tells us it'll go tits up imminently, so whether it does or doesn't nothing can detract from the brightest three months in a decade. Those hoping and praying for us to fail can project unrealistic expectations onto us and joyously sneer at failure to deliver, but it matters not. I've got a dozen marvellous performances to keep me warm this winter and meanwhile we're top for another week and still in the cup. If others want to claim not winning a trophy is failure that's up to them, certainly not for me.'"
'Bravo.'
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I fancied Catalans pre season, but then I have done for several years. Their recruitment for 2016 has been fabulous IMO. Totally accept the point on 2015 finish comparability, but I guess where I'm coming from is that they (in my head, might not be backed up in fact) have been a lot closer to the top than us in recent seasons. Maybe on the basis we've been miles off since Agar.
On the jinx/arrogance point, all I can say is that after a decade of disappointment, these are great times - in the moment - that realise feck all. History tells us it'll go tits up imminently, so whether it does or doesn't nothing can detract from the brightest three months in a decade. Those hoping and praying for us to fail can project unrealistic expectations onto us and joyously sneer at failure to deliver, but it matters not. I've got a dozen marvellous performances to keep me warm this winter and meanwhile we're top for another week and still in the cup. If others want to claim not winning a trophy is failure that's up to them, certainly not for me.'"
I'm not suggesting that not winning a trophy from here would be a disaster or embarrassment or anything like that. The way the competitions are structured means that you could play well in every game to the end of the season, but if other good teams play well and beat you narrowly in a couple of knock-out games, that's the brasso back in the drawer for another year. Although there's always the plate, of course.
I think it's more likely you won't win the GF or CC than that you will. But you've got as good a shot as anybody and better than most.
Most interesting season for a long time, IMO, and there's certainly not that feeling of inevitability that it'll be two of the perennial Grand Finalists at Old Trafford in October.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "People seem to have this obsession with our supposedly massive team but IMO it's a bit of a myth. Our props are no bigger than most teams, our back rowers (pritchard apart) the same. We have the likes of washbrook, thompson and hadley playing regularly. ellis, manu and mini are the same size as most back rowers in SL and smaller than plenty. bowden and taylor are pretty big but no more than props elsewhere, green is big but probably the least effective of our props and watts is actually quite lean for a prop. In the backs we only really have the bin man and fonua who are bigger than average but no more than the likes of hall, sau, lineham, carney etc.
Where we seem to have an advantage is in technique, fitness and conditioning. We're not dropping off intensity towards the end of games and we play at a high tempo which is hard for most teams to live with. I don't think we're really doing anything much different to what the rest of SL are trying to do, we're just doing it more effectively'"
Nice try Jake but your team is massive no myth your wingers are bigger than our props
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| Quote: Mild Rover "I'm not suggesting that not winning a trophy from here would be a disaster or embarrassment or anything like that. The way the competitions are structured means that you could play well in every game to the end of the season, but if other good teams play well and beat you narrowly in a couple of knock-out games, that's the brasso back in the drawer for another year. Although there's always the plate, of course.
I think it's more likely you won't win the GF or CC than that you will. But you've got as good a shot as anybody and better than most.
Most interesting season for a long time, IMO, and there's certainly not that feeling of inevitability that it'll be two of the perennial Grand Finalists at Old Trafford in October.'"
Agree with all that. The whole treble tipping thing was more about the likes of Easty than you, you're a bit too smart for that.
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Nice try Jake but your team is massive no myth your wingers are bigger than our props
On the subject of weight, has Kelly really lost 8Kg since the beginning of the season?
Makes you wonder what sort of condition he was in early season.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Washbrook, Hadley, Naughton, Talanoa and a few others look bigger than last year to me. Mrs B had a picture of Callum Lancaster at one point and he seemed to have bulked up considerably. They look fit and well conditioned too, though by the hour mark that might reflect more on how trampled the opposition are. Powerful rather than, big, if you prefer.'"
We have the same conditioner rovers have had for the last few years so I doubt he's suddenly found a new ability to bulk players up. Our players are no bigger than anyone else's, it's just an excuse they give themselves when we beat them
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Nice try Jake but your team is massive no myth your wingers are bigger than our props
naughton and michaels are tiny, smaller than dixon even
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| Quote: ccs "According to the club websites, your 2 props are 6Kg heavier than Watts and Taylor.
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It makes you look smaller when you're shiit
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Interesting thread from the start on the year, I think we are well on the way to achieving everyone's expectations.
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=591488
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Interesting thread from the start on the year, I think we are well on the way to achieving everyone's expectations.
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=591488
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This is another good thread, I have noticed a couple posters who said they were finished on here have started to re appear, maybe hoping nobody would notice.
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=588705&start=80
And yes I am bored on a Sunday night.
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This is another good thread, I have noticed a couple posters who said they were finished on here have started to re appear, maybe hoping nobody would notice.
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=588705&start=80
And yes I am bored on a Sunday night.
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| Quote: Dave K. "This is another good thread, I have noticed a couple posters who said they were finished on here have started to re appear, maybe hoping nobody would notice.
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Slightly awkward.
Quote: Dave K. "As fan of over 20 years it pains me to say this, but this is he point our years of decline are in danger of becoming a terminal spiral.
Yet another disappointing home display, the team didn't even turn up for about 20/30mins, gave a distinctly average Catalan a head start, and somehow allowed them to win when they've been hammered every week when visiting the UK.
Same collection of issues that have dogged us for years, no attacking game plan, poor kicking, awful conversion attempts. Failure to turn up for 80mins. No different attacking moves to all the other 'close but got no points' games we've had in the Radford era. I think most fans are realistic and didn't expect a classic today, 7th versus 8th in a dead rubber was never going to be, but we do expect effort for the full game. The young kids did better over the last few weeks than the experienced pro's on display today. Catalan's were also a lot smarter with their play, often playing for penalties and slowing the game down, something we never seem to do.
Crowds and the atmosphere are at their lowest point, Pearson admitted there was only 6,500 in the ground last week and there can't have been any more than that today despite some free/cheap tickets in the North stand. The fans are voting with their feet, in increasing numbers.
I can only plead with Pearson to admit he made a mistake in hiring Radford, and go out and hire an experienced head coach, which would restore confidence and most fans would renew next year and give the team a chance.
I had already decided not to renew my pass next year based on poor performances over the last year and a half, but today really was the final straw, after yet another week of hype in the media 'going to end with a bang' we went out with a whimper. We have signed some quality players next year but it's backs we need more than forwards. We are also losing Lineham and Paea who are quality players who we will miss.
Some posters on here may be glad to hear that after over 20 years of support and approx 11 years posting on here this will be my last thread. This isn't the club I fell in love with, it's a badly managed sinking ship and I can't see anything changing anytime soon. Over and out!'"
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| Quote: Dave K. "This is another good thread, I have noticed a couple posters who said they were finished on here have started to re appear, maybe hoping nobody would notice.
"The Slow Death of Hull FC" post was frankly embarrassing.
Also good to see that we are very close to securing a top four spot meaning that Radford avoids bumpy's firing squad.
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