FORUMS > Hull FC > Koukash and the RFL |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 756 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2016 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| its all a con this tirade,hes just trying to get the 6 points back.the mans a fool.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 11614 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
16831.gif :16831.gif |
|
| the rfl does need radical changes, but for god sake, not led by koukash, couldnt think of anything worse!
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1253 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2022 | Sep 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
45758_1583677597.jpg born in airlie str,1939.german landmine that fell on boulevard,also blew up half of our house.thats why i dont like germans.not because they blew our house and boulevard up,but because the gerry pillock was aiming for craven park.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45758.jpg |
|
| Quote: EASTCOASTFC2016 "Would be great if the RFL would (or even could!) confirm the role of the referee's assistant, I spend a lot of time wondering just what they are there for...'"
to advertise specsavers
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 154 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2016 | May 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: edinburgh yorkie "to advertise specsavers
Not far off the truth, more's the pity!
So long as the best team wins I can take defeat. We've had a decent run with officials so far though.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 594 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2024 | Feb 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| I think its great news and about time that someone has taken up the baton of trying to run our great sport in a better way.
At present RL is under-valued, under-Marketed and as a result under-sold.
Every one has seen Redhalls failings for years. We are run by Dinosaurs.
I am sure the plethora of of successful businessmen running our clubs can take SL as we know it now onto a totally new level of organisation and Marketing.
Things are better now than they've ever been, but thats not the point for me. Our rulers at Redhall are scratching the surface on what the unique value of this amazing contact sport can really be as a spectator sport and in turn maximise all income streams.
RL loses out catastrophically in the Marketing stakes. Ok RL could never match Footballs global reach but we could do an infinitely better job at targeting and selling our game to its Maximum , where at the moment we fail miserably.
As said, we do not have the Global presence of Premier League Football, but with the right Marketing this amazing game can be sold around the world. "Seeing is Believing" with our marvellous game, to watch it well presented, as is often the case with the NRL is something to behold. It is breathtaking at times. The pure strength, courage, honesty and physical prowess of the Gladiators on show is something to behold. If we can't sell that we can't sell anything!!!
RedHall amateur Marketing are NOT the benchmark in what can be achieved for our sport. Quite the contrary.
Look at some of the opposing views to the "new" Premier League when it broke away in the 1990s.
There were some dissenting voices from teams who wanted to stay with what they knew well, including Derby, Forest and QPR. The Football League themselves tried to have a injunction which would have made the creation of the (new) premier league illegal, this was overridden and now is a wonderful precedent for our game RL, and finally... Gordon Taylor of the PFA made a statement that the Football league deal would generously offer each of the 20 teams an amazing £100,000 each season of TV money if they stay !!!. That was quite a carrot at the time and made some teams reconsider their position. Fortunately they held their nerve and the the rest is history, They had the vision and bravery to see what it could be and now the returns are amazing ! significantly more than a 400 times what that carrot figure promised.
RL will not achieve those kind of unbelievable returns but we can definitely do massively better than today.
Looking back now, the Premier League today is on totally different standing, not only to what it was, but also in comparison to all other "premier Leagues of world
football".
Super League can re-invent itself too, it won't happen overnight but it can and that will happen one day. I hope its soon and that Koukash can get a strong body of men together who can also hold their nerve.
I'm sure there will be a dissenting voice from Leeds and a certain person there, where own agendas sometimes appear to me to be more important to certain people, rather than the game itself and fulfilling all the potential of where it can be.
They should go ahead without Leeds, just as they did without Derby, Forest, and QPR with the Prem breakaway. They soon jumped on board when they knew it was a goer. Nether they, nor Leeds in our case should hold back progress. Leeds too will come back to the fold should the breakaway group succeed in achieving their goal. They will have to.
The way Leeds are playing, it may be that their right of passage to automatic membership of a new elite may be by promotion from the Championship, as it has been for Burnley and Middlesbrough this season.
I say good Luck Mr Koukash go for it, and I hope Adam buys into the vision too.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 154 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2016 | May 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Uppo58 "I think its great news and about time that someone has taken up the baton of trying to run our great sport in a better way.
At present RL is under-valued, under-Marketed and as a result under-sold.
Every one has seen Redhalls failings for years. We are run by Dinosaurs.
I am sure the plethora of of successful businessmen running our clubs can take SL as we know it now onto a totally new level of organisation and Marketing.
Things are better now than they've ever been, but thats not the point for me. Our rulers at Redhall are scratching the surface on what the unique value of this amazing contact sport can really be as a spectator sport and in turn maximise all income streams.
RL loses out catastrophically in the Marketing stakes. Ok RL could never match Footballs global reach but we could do an infinitely better job at targeting and selling our game to its Maximum , where at the moment we fail miserably.
As said, we do not have the Global presence of Premier League Football, but with the right Marketing this amazing game can be sold around the world. "Seeing is Believing" with our marvellous game, to watch it well presented, as is often the case with the NRL is something to behold. It is breathtaking at times. The pure strength, courage, honesty and physical prowess of the Gladiators on show is something to behold. If we can't sell that we can't sell anything!!!
RedHall amateur Marketing are NOT the benchmark in what can be achieved for our sport. Quite the contrary.
Look at some of the opposing views to the "new" Premier League when it broke away in the 1990s.
There were some dissenting voices from teams who wanted to stay with what they knew well, including Derby, Forest and QPR. The Football League themselves tried to have a injunction which would have made the creation of the (new) premier league illegal, this was overridden and now is a wonderful precedent for our game RL, and finally... Gordon Taylor of the PFA made a statement that the Football league deal would generously offer each of the 20 teams an amazing £100,000 each season of TV money if they stay !!!. That was quite a carrot at the time and made some teams reconsider their position. Fortunately they held their nerve and the the rest is history, They had the vision and bravery to see what it could be and now the returns are amazing ! significantly more than a 400 times what that carrot figure promised.
RL will not achieve those kind of unbelievable returns but we can definitely do massively better than today.
Looking back now, the Premier League today is on totally different standing, not only to what it was, but also in comparison to all other "premier Leagues of world
football".
Super League can re-invent itself too, it won't happen overnight but it can and that will happen one day. I hope its soon and that Koukash can get a strong body of men together who can also hold their nerve.
I'm sure there will be a dissenting voice from Leeds and a certain person there, where own agendas sometimes appear to me to be more important to certain people, rather than the game itself and fulfilling all the potential of where it can be.
They should go ahead without Leeds, just as they did without Derby, Forest, and QPR with the Prem breakaway. They soon jumped on board when they knew it was a goer. Nether they, nor Leeds in our case should hold back progress. Leeds too will come back to the fold should the breakaway group succeed in achieving their goal. They will have to.
The way Leeds are playing, it may be that their right of passage to automatic membership of a new elite may be by promotion from the Championship, as it has been for Burnley and Middlesbrough this season.
I say good Luck Mr Koukash go for it, and I hope Adam buys into the vision too.'"
There is no vision, just finger pointing and calling the RFL rubbish with no suggestion of what and how it could be better. Salford are a nothing side and have been for years.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2455 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
59871_1384965068.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59871.gif |
|
| The main problem for me, with any breakaway would have to be retention of the salary cap plus funding of the lower leagues. You cannot compare RL with Union or The Premier League imo. Union is funding the lower leagues to the point where many minor clubs have tremendous facilities, with not only Sky money which beggars our meagre allotment, due to poor negotions admittedly, but also from their tremendous international programme, this is the only thing I'm envious of with Kick and Clap. The only time, as far as I'm aware, Championship clubs are funded by Premier League is when they fall from grace? Champoonship funding comes from seperately negotiated deals by The Football League.
If the salary cap were to go from Super League, the obvious would happen, ie the richest clubs would buy titles and cups in the same way, as previously stated, Maurice Lindsey did at Wigan, which would inevitably mean clubs going to the wall due to over expenditure, in the chase to keep up. We've been down that road already. Do you think Whinos and Hudds would be where they are in the table, without the salary cap. It is the very leveller, it was intended to be. Breakaway? Yes but a level headed approach is necessary. Not Marwan and his millions leading the title rush.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2152 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Rfl should be targeting bewildwered football fans who still want to see a contact sport. I actually heard a commenter say " no way should he be making any contact with the player" what the duck!!! I seriously believe football will be a no contact sport within a few seasons, its embarrasing . I cant bring myself to watch a full game off football these days, I aint for a long time now. And I know many footy fans that feel the same.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 7786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2014 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Tinkerman23 "Rfl should be targeting bewildwered football fans who still want to see a contact sport. I actually heard a commenter say " no way should he be making any contact with the player" what the duck!!! I seriously believe football will be a no contact sport within a few seasons, its embarrasing . I cant bring myself to watch a full game off football these days, I aint for a long time now. And I know many footy fans that feel the same.'"
Watching Hull City play is like watching paint dry.There are not many football matches nowadays when you think now that was an exciting and entertaining match to watch.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 2104 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| The game now is a total joke e.g. ANYOBODY can beat ANYBODY e.g. Widnes started off superbely and now cant beat Hull womens u 18s team
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 594 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2024 | Feb 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: MR FRISK "The game now is a total joke e.g. ANYOBODY can beat ANYBODY e.g. Widnes started off superbely and now cant beat Hull womens u 18s team
I don't think its a joke, Leeds apart, lol . On the contrary, I think the unpredictability of the results because the sides are better matched is what is making Super League more enjoyable this season.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1881 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
simpsons/simp100.gif :simpsons/simp100.gif |
|
| Quote: MR FRISK "The game now is a total joke e.g. ANYOBODY can beat ANYBODY e.g. Widnes started off superbely and now cant beat Hull womens u 18s team
A total joke?! Because the salary cap is doing its job? Because Wigan are no longer a guaranteed top 4 finisher (although they will still finish in the top 4 this year)? I really don't understand why you think the league is a joke?
It's made it much more interesting.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2152 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: bonaire "Watching Hull City play is like watching paint dry.There are not many football matches nowadays when you think now that was an exciting and entertaining match to watch.'"
Completely agree, I just don't get it anymore, the way the press/tv hypes up games , man utd vs Chelsea, expecting a thriller. often ends in a 0-0 bore draw, won me some cash though, that's all its good for these days, a bit of gamble. And watching the city fans after after the game Tuesday was just embarrassing , city of culture 2017!!!! Euros this summer I have completely no interest in, same as the England players. Last England game I watched was wc in south Africa, a complete joke of overpaid, overrated asssholes. Give me a amateur RL game any day over that shiitte
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2455 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
59871_1384965068.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59871.gif |
|
| Quote: MR FRISK "The game now is a total joke e.g. ANYOBODY can beat ANYBODY e.g. Widnes started off superbely and now cant beat Hull womens u 18s team
Exactly the point I made earlier, the salary cap is doing it's intended task. Short sightedness on some teams parts by not going with Academies and Under 23's. Spend your money on a few decent players but knackered when out through injury. With Brown missing Widnes are a shadow of the team that slugged us.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1253 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2022 | Sep 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
45758_1583677597.jpg born in airlie str,1939.german landmine that fell on boulevard,also blew up half of our house.thats why i dont like germans.not because they blew our house and boulevard up,but because the gerry pillock was aiming for craven park.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45758.jpg |
|
| Quote: EASTCOASTFC2016 "Not far off the truth, more's the pity!
So long as the best team wins I can take defeat. We've had a decent run with officials so far though.'" agree.
|
|
|
|
|
|