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| As has been proven, a young centre has offered more in a few weeks than Yeaman has for 3 years. Giving him another deal is stifling the progress of a keen, young player who's making their name in the U19's
I've heard and seen nothing of Yeaman's off-field activities for the club, nothing on the FC Foundation or in the press, so perhaps someone can enlighten me what a player who has offered nothing onfield did to warrant a job?
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| Regarding cover (& applying some maths), we have 8 players covering the 5 back positions (wings, centres & full back):
Shaul, Naughton, Lancaster, Talanoa, Fonua, Tuimavave, Logan & Michaels.
So, 60% cover.
In the forwards (prop, second row & loose) we have 17 players covering 8 positions (discounting hooker and assuming we go with three on the bench in the 17):
Taylor, Watts, Green, Bowden, Feka, Whiting, Westerman, Pritchard, Mini, Manu, Downes, Fash, Turgut, Hadley, Ellis, Thompson, BTW.
Which is 113% cover.
If we put 4 forwards on the bench, 17 players covering 9 positions, that's still 89% cover.
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| Quote: Diablo1967 "As has been proven, a young centre has offered more in a few weeks than Yeaman has for 3 years. Giving him another deal is stifling the progress of a keen, young player who's making their name in the U19's'"
It's (apparently) a one year deal, that's all. Chill out.
Seriously, what has Yeaman done to some of you?
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| Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "It's (apparently) a one year deal, that's all. Chill out.
Seriously, what has Yeaman done to some of you?
Bearing in mind the cr*p some of the NON-LOCAL players have taken over the years for bad performances, it seems odd that a player who regularly plays anonymously or is clearly not up to the task is given a new deal, mmm?
Miller, Washbrook, Tommy Lee are three that leap to mind.
If a one year deal was offered to Arundel, you'd have had a meltdown, yet he offered more than Yeaman has for half a decade.
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| Quote: Diablo1967 "Bearing in mind the cr*p some of the NON-LOCAL players have taken over the years for bad performances, it seems odd that a player who regularly plays anonymously or is clearly not up to the task is given a new deal, mmm?
Miller, Washbrook, Tommy Lee are three that leap to mind.
If a one year deal was offered to Arundel, you'd have had a meltdown, yet he offered more than Yeaman has for half a decade.'"
Washbrook and Lee are both local, Richard Horne got plenty of stick too - not sure what that point was all about(?).
Anyway, it depends on the situation, as I've stated about three times already in this thread now. If he's been given a new 1 yr deal, which is what we're expecting, then he'll be a backup player in 2016 - that's it. I think we do need n extra back in the squad to provide that cover, whether that be Yeaman or someone signed externally, or Arundel, I couldn't care less.
Nobody, and I'll repeat that, NOBODY thinks Yeaman should be starting for us next season. EVERYBODY agrees his best days are long gone.
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| What ever happened to Tom Biggs? Is he still playing for Bath?
Great news about Feka. Exactly the kind of person to have around the club. Hope he stays for many years in some capacity.
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| Quote: Kosh "OK - First off, there is zero actual evidence of any close friendship between Radford and Yeaman. There's been a rumour around for a while but I think it rose mostly out of an attempt to explain the continued selection of a player who is patently no longer good enough.
That said, I have yet to see a convincing reason for retaining Yeaman next season. Even as a backup he makes little sense - we'd have to have an extraordinary injury crisis before he'd be getting on my team sheet either in the backs or forwardsQuote: Kosh ". If he's a good influence to have around the club - and I don't think there's any doubt that he's been the consummate professional then offer him an off-field role.'" '"
Iknow theres no sentiment in sport, but ive lost count of how many times hes pulled us out of the sh>>te in past derbys, he was always well motivated,not like some others. Ill bet the robins will be glad to see the back of him!
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Yeaman getting a contract makes sense as he would be a cheap experienced back up centre and there aren't many of them out there for what he costs you'"
A centre who can't run, pass and doesn't score much. As a 2nd rower he faces comepetition from arguably SL's best set of 2nd rowers. If it's true he's got a new deal it's an absolute joke.
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| Quote: UllFC "A centre who can't run, pass and doesn't score much. As a 2nd rower he faces comepetition from arguably SL's best set of 2nd rowers. If it's true he's got a new deal it's an absolute joke.'"
1yr deal as a backup, why are so many mouths frothing at this? Is it really that much of a problem to people?
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| Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "1yr deal as a backup, why are so many mouths frothing at this? Is it really that much of a problem to people?
When player doesn't perform they don't deserve a new contract.I have said it before if Yeaman was from anywhere else but Hull he would have been out of the door at the end of the season.
We havnt a clue what Yeaman earns but when the club is obviously looking to cut costs and Adam Pearson making his usual plea to buy your season pass, to keep Yeaman on for another year is money down the drain
As you have pointed out we are well and truly covered in the forwards so is he going to be our new player coach in the under 23s.I hope not.
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| Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "Are you insane?
I stated reasons on my previous post as to why he may be kept on for another year, which was (again) to provide backup to the backs - did you read that bit? Myself and a couple of others said that he's likely a positive influence around the place too, specifically to a really young set of backs.
Is Yeaman being a backup player in 2016 such a problem? Why are you so angered by it?
Unlike you, I don't think we have sufficient cover in the backs. I do agree with you, and so does EVERYBODY, that his days as a first choice centre are finished.
Again, you're doing that weird thing you do and putting two and two together and getting 5. Is that all you have to go on to conclude that Radders & Yeaman are best mates? It's no wonder people treat your posts with zero respect. You're the most close-minded poster on these boards, and thats saying something.'"
I'm not close minded, I see it perfectly clear frankly after weighing up the facts. Your reasons to keep him aren't logical given the options we have. You also don't need as much cover numerically in the backs as you do the forwards, that's pretty obvious to anyone who has an ounce of rugby knowledge. And as has being seen Yeaman is right at the back of the queue to be cover, he just doesn't cut it and there are far better options from the youngsters, Logan already has shown he's vastly better in just a few games.
There are no logical reasons to give him a contract so on that basis one has to ask the question, why is he getting yet another extension?
It would seem Radford is untouchable in your eyes, unlike the previous more successful coach whom was lambasted on here for allegedly handing out favourable/over the top contracts to certain players. That the amounts were just rumour and conjecture not backed up with any facts yet the coach was laid into time and again on this forum makes that double standards.
As I said, a player receiving another contract when to all and sundry he doesn't offer us anything should be scrutinised, however he's a 30 something Hull lad and not some young up and coming Australian kid so that's explains everything
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "I'm not closed minded, I see it perfectly clear frankly after weighing up the facts. Your reasons to keep him aren't logical given the options we have. You also don't need as much cover numerically in the backs as you do the forwards, that's pretty obvious to anyone who has an ounce of rugby knowledge. And as has being seen Yeaman is right at the back of the queue to be cover, he just doesn't cut it and there are far better options from the youngsters, Logan already has shown he's vastly better in just a few games.
There are no logical reasons to give him a contract so on that basis one has to ask the question, why is he getting yet another extension?
It would seem Radford is untouchable in your eyes, unlike the previous more successful coach whom was lambasted on here for allegedly handing out favourable/over the top contracts to certain players. That the amounts were just rumour and conjecture not backed up with any facts yet the coach was laid into time and again on this forum makes that double standards.
As I said, a player receiving another contract when to all and sundry he doesn't offer us anything should be scrutinised, however he's a 30 something Hull lad and not some young up and coming Australian kid so that's explains everything
What are you going on about? Step away from the keyboard, wipe away the froth from your mouth and stop being outraged over something that isn't outrageous.
1yr deal, backup back, that's it
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "
It would seem Radford is untouchable in your eyes, unlike the previous more successful coach whom was lambasted on here for allegedly handing out favourable/over the top contracts to certain players.'"
As has been pointed out time and time again just because a poster doesn't slate Radford on every post doesn't mean they back him.
Who was this "successful" coach, by the way? The one who finished mid table twice, and coached us to humiliation twice in 2013? You keep banging on that Gentle got us to Wembley but so what? We lost and the performance was shameful. I'd rather we hadn't got there. You are celebrating mediocrity.
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| Personally I'd rather we hadn't signed washbrook, yeaman and feka and used the money to sign a centre or hooker. All of those players are back ups and we'd have been better served with a specialist hooker or another centre IMO
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