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| Quote: westdock boy in oz "Can't think of too many 22yr old `world beaters' tbh.
Crooks could have spent this season on the `Naughty step' sat in the stands with Shaul, but chose to spend a season living in one of the worlds most iconic cities, -
improving his game, (no matter who the coaches were) & landing a 3 year deal under arguably the best coach in super league.
Looks like he's done alright to me - given the alternative of stagnating under Radford.'"
Oh give over. Powell is a decent coach and quite probably better than Radford but this is just ridiculous.
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| Quote: Carmine Galante "Kenny Penny is an interesting one because he will divide you depending on how you like to see the game played, I see him as a match winner, an althlete and an entertaining player. Radford would see a player like Penny as his worst nightmare. If I'm honest I'd much prefer to see him on the wing over Micheals, like I say the lads a smart player, solid but just lacks an 'X factor' for me. As a bit of counter though ball in hand he's certainly looked more dangerous in recent weeks so maybe more to come from him, and his try ratio has improved a lot. If we had a team full of mavericks and backs like Penny he'd add a lot of balance, but my gripe is that Radofrd would prefer the whole backline like this.
As for the centre debate as long as he knows the score I can't see anything wrong with having Tuimavave as our starting centre, maybe a gamble but seems to have the talent and pedigree, that's certainly not a stick to beat Radford with and personally am excited to see how he goes. My concern is that because he's played there so little he's bound to have a few poor defensive reads and positioning issues at first, and is also a naturally creative player so may also turn over a fair bit of ball and let's not forget only 22, so will he get long enough in the side before he's placed on the naughty step and his attitude brought into question? Going on what we've seen, I'm not sure Radford has the patience or know how to get the best out of such a player, not to mention the temptation to play Yeaman there too.'"
Michaels over penny all day for me. Penny struggled to get in a poor wire team all year.
Michaels defence is 1of the best in all outside backs in the league not just our club. Before it gets jumped on that its not a need for a winger id point u to lineham and anther loss the other night through poor defence. All micheals metres are always good. Runs much beyond his weight and plays with urgency. X factor is good. But how often does even the fastest of wingers score full lengthers? But how often do they need to carry,tackle,descision make. In fairness to michaels,some of his finishes in recent weeks have been tremendous
people talk of this naughty step. Players that have been on it have earned it.
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| Quote: Kosh " Powell is a decent coach and quite probably better than Radford'"
I can't believe that you really believe this.
Name a worse coach in superleague, ( I have to admit Betts & Harris are probably as bad)
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| Quote: westdock boy in oz "Can't think of too many 22yr old `world beaters' tbh.
Crooks could have spent this season on the `Naughty step' sat in the stands with Shaul, but chose to spend a season living in one of the worlds most iconic cities, -
improving his game, (no matter who the coaches were) & landing a 3 year deal under arguably the best coach in super league.
Looks like he's done alright to me - given the alternative of stagnating under Radford.'"
Radford had a convo with crooks. Said he thought he was 2yrs away. He didnt like that so buggered off. If he comes good next year thats 2yrs.
radford gave him every chance in the last year. Only thing he couldnt do was make the tackles for him,or carry the ball stronger,or make less errors.
Gentle created a system to protect him and utilise his attacking skill. Tied up 2 other players though who played purely to provide and protect him.
Radford didnt believe that was realistic. So when back to conventional methods crooks was exposed.
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| Quote: westdock boy in oz "I can't believe that you really believe this.
Name a worse coach in superleague, ( I have to admit Betts & Harris are probably as bad)'"
They are not in Super League at it stands.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "They are not in Super League at it stands.'"
Radford is, of course. Just lucky.
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| Quote: westdock boy in oz "I can't believe that you really believe this.
Name a worse coach in superleague, ( I have to admit Betts & Harris are probably as bad)'"
You can't believe that I believe that Powell is probably a better coach than Radford? Maybe your comprehension skills need a brush up.
I use the phrase 'quite probably' because matches between the two sides this season have been shared 50/50 and the loss on Friday was down to errors by some individual players rather than one side being coached better than the other. I don't think Powell is as good as some seem to think TBH. And just being a bit better than Radford does not make him 'one of the best coaches in SL'. It's a low bar.
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| Yay, another Radford thread.
I like Michaels. His improved form has felt like we've made a mid-season signing. I'm happy to have him for another year.
And I think he's quick.
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| Quote: C for Cuckoo "Yay, another Radford thread.
I like Michaels. His improved form has felt like we've made a mid-season signing. I'm happy to have him for another year.
And I think he's quick.'"
His improved form may be due to having a proper centre inside him. And yes he is quick and he's a good defender too.
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| Quote: C for Cuckoo "Yay, another Radford thread.
I like Michaels. His improved form has felt like we've made a mid-season signing. I'm happy to have him for another year.
And I think he's quick.'"
People who already have their set agendas will blame Radford for anything and everything, no matter how stupid it makes them look. For what it's worth, Michaels has got better and better as the season has gone on. And Watts has really bloomed under Radford's coaching. However, I do think there are players like Westerman and Thompson that have either stagnated or gone backwards. I think it's important to not be blind to the successes though, and not exclusively point out the failures.
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| Quote: the artist "we'll see how he goes under powell next year'"
I expect him to be very good.
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "His improved form may be due to having a proper centre inside him. And yes he is quick and he's a good defender too.'"
And I think it offers a different look to our team. Everyone in the league has known how to defend against Yeaman for nearly a decade. Having Logan there, despite his relative inexperience, will create doubt in the minds of defenders and create a little extra space and time for him and his winger.
Does anyone know if Logan is okay after Friday? It'd be nice to see those two continue to develop their partnership.
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| Quote: C for Cuckoo "And I think it offers a different look to our team. Everyone in the league has known how to defend against Yeaman for nearly a decade. Having Logan there, despite his relative inexperience, will create doubt in the minds of defenders and create a little extra space and time for him and his winger. '" That's partly why Crooks started so well. Teams had never played against him. Watching him on video is nothing like playing against someone new, and they soon worked him out, like most other players, to a degree, I guess.
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| Quote: Kosh "Biggest cop-out response used on these forums.
Any fool can demand 'something needs to be done' and then vanish when asked to define what exactly.'"
you mean when you respond to posts simply with the word Rubbish, and then vanish when pushed to ask why its rubbish.
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| Quote: Jimmy Carr "I expect him to be very good.'"
He'll be the same as when he left us. An instinctive attacking player with poor physicality, and poor defense. Not too dissimilar to Craig Hall but with less pace, and probably slightly less adventurous.
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