I'll tell you why we moan, its because we actually care and love our club. Pearson, Radford, Ellis, Pryce I could go on, will be long gone soon. In the same way Boxall, Hancock, Bunting, Lloyd Leuluai etc have long gone. But who have stayed loyal thorugh some pretty dross times. Us the fans. Us the fans who put our hard earned cash into the coffers of the club. Us the fans who have family diaries dictated by a fixture list so that we can follow the club. Us the fans who love the club and are completely dedicated to it. When its clearly not going well and nobody at the club can see it and when we are told that unless we turn up at Widnes on a Thursday night we can't have a say, thats when we get the right royal ar54.

I don't know how long you have supported the club and frankly I don't really care. But for some of us it aint so easy to say sod it I'm off without so much as a word after all this time supporting the club.

If AP and LR are doing the best they can and all we are doing is standing still at best then maybe they need to man up and either get some outside help or ship out. (Look to Castleford for a club in a far worse situation than us and yet they may well make the top 4. what do they do so differently to the "big" club that is Hull FC?) What they are doing now does not appear to be working. AP went on about our u16s when he took over. The next great crop of youngsters apparently. Yet we seem more intent on shipping some of them out and getting overseas players in. We are merging with the enemy because of cost cutting pure and simple. An exercise which will see further cuts as the funding stream from the fans upset with that will dry up. Wilf being a classic example. a man who regularly goes to watch the academy and goes the extra mile putting his hand in his pocket. That will stop from him and many others.

These are a few of many things that frankly p155 off too many fans now. And if they want to express their opinion on that then so be it. The fans that don't turn up now HAVE to be listened to. The reasons why the don't turn up HAVE to be listened to. If they don't get listened to then many more will drift away and we will be back to the championship and days in Batley, Oxford, London, Gateshead.

I have been supporting Fc since 1958 over them years we have had some highs and some downright lows that goes for every RL fan. I agree with Wilf that I go to games home and away with no idea how we will perform the Wakey game was a prime example,should have gone there thinking yes a win is certain but no on the way down thinking we could lose here ..and we all know what happened ,After their first try I though here we go and sadly we folded.I honestly dont think a change in coach or owner will make any difference but if it did then I would be the first to say lets do it,however i think the criticism aimed at Pearson is bang out of order.Allam knew nothing about football and he relied on others knowledge ,Pearson put the same trust in others and it cost him dearly with some pretty awful contracts and signings and whatever you think that has caused us real damage. I want to see a better club but I will never walk away its in my blood ,am i frustrated and down ..to right I am but i live in hope .

An interesting thread..

I feel that the majority of FC fans/supporters and followers have lost confidence with the Head Coach, and Pearson's decision making.

Pearson feels, the signings of a high profile player, will be a major season ticket seller, but in my opinion the acquisition of a Head Coach of the stature of a Powell or even Brian Smith, would galvanize the club further., it would give fans confidence again.

As it stands, IF Pearson continues with the current coaching setup, pass sales will dwindle, but IF ,a big IF.. he gambled on a proven Head Coach, people may return ,if the performances were consistent.

People just need to look at Wakey and the change in expectation since BS arrived. I would hazard a guess that their fans are more confident of their future than we are of ours. There needs to be change and it needs to happen quickly or the fans who are not turning up now will never turn up again.

Totally agree...

Pearson doesnt understand, nor realise, the importance of a Head Coach.

It would be interesting to hear the fans opinions, regarding..

Who would improve Hull FC as a club more..?

A high profile player, or a proven Head Coach ????

Problem is with Adam Pearson, he doesnt listen to fans advice, many have emailed him, and I recall there was a FC fans group, who tried to offer advice, but fell on deaf ears..

I am not wanting to go over ground already covered but as a 3rd generation hull fan who now takes his own children and used to have a great uncle who represented our club with great distinction I believe that I and others like me do have a right to voice our opinions and no less a right simply because I no longer buy a pass.
This season for the first time in years I have become a pay as you go customer and not a very occasional one at that. Both my children now refuse to accompany me to games when I go as they claim it is now boring and who am I to disagree as I am now equally disillusioned.
I firmly believe the current failings of this club are due to Pearson and Radford and no blame can be apportioned to any fan regardless.
Pearson through dialogue with him and through the media in my opinion is a very arrogant and stubborn man who should look at himself first and foremost and ask "what can I do differently to change the club?" Instead of laying the blame at those non attending fans for our financial demise, those very same fans the club need yet he chooses to ignore.
And as for Radford a man clearly out if his depth at this level of coaching a man ultimately responsible for taking the level of performances below what I thought possible in the fact he makes Agar look good, is also responsible for driving away fans in their droves. He also alienates players and fans alike with his ill thought out interviews which does not help our cause.
It has got so bad for me that I now resent a man I do not know simply because of how bad we are and how he has now made me feel as a supporter.
So now no longer will I blindly give cash to this club to an owner who no longer deserves it and for a coach to be employed who's ability I do not respect or value.
For me it is no longer about big name signings as they won't win me over as they'll become expensive parts in a badly run machine but a proven coach or one with pedigree and potential would.

Their highest average home SL attendance in 4 years, when the game in general is seeing a decline? And this despite their lowest points return, lowest league finish, lowest number of wins, and lowest number of points scored since their first season back. A comparative success, really, and if anything only adds to the argument that people will still go if they are being entertained.

How is it? He's made mistakes, simple as that. As long as it's not personal or nasty, criticism of that is entirely fair.

If you buy a business in a field you know nothing about, listen to the wrong people and make bad decisions, that's your fault. End of story. It doesn't matter how well intentioned you were/are, the ultimate responsibility for how the business performs is yours and yours alone. What we've effectively had here is not unlike Mr & Mrs Smith the lifelong electrician and sales rep who have decided to fulfil their dream and move to Majorca to open a restaurant having never cooked outside of their own kitchen, never working in the trade or tourism and being unable to speak Spanish between them. Gordon Ramsay would be knocking on the door to swear at and ridicule them.

Nail on the head. Whilst better players will obviously make some improvement, I think the big concern is that no matter who it is it won't make enough difference until the deeper problems are addressed.

The point being that I'm sure Rovers fans would rather be in our position than theirs.

they have more chance of winning games, but the spectre of possible relegation, whilst unlikely, remains.

Well if so it seems they have a different outlook to Hudge.