The fact that this is subject to debate shows what a mess we are currently in regarding our head coach. I honestly don't know who I'd rather have out of the two of them.

It is certainly close, Radford recruitment is better (just the fact that we have signed some halfbacks) and I think we do play better rugby under Radford (Goes back to the halfs again).

Agar failed to make the top 8 in his first two seasons, lets hope Radford does better than that.

Is Radford just Agar with a bigger chequebook though?

Wouldn't say so, the club still spent up to full cap when Agar was in charge. Paid the fee for Westy while he was in charge too didn't we?

Agar took us to Wembley in his first part season but our league form was dire. His first full season was dreadful, but his second full season was actually a good year. Perhaps our best since 2007. Ironically it was Radford that cost us a top 4 finish that year. 2011 was bang average but he did at least make the playoffs.

I wouldn't fancy either in charge, but if it had to be one or the other it would be Agar every time.

I'd argue that there's not a lot in it, but did Agar have the young players available to him that Radford has and has seemingly squandered or going to squander?

We won the Academy GF in 2007 didn't we, so he had the best of that bunch to use during his tenure. He had an awful record of bringing juniors through.

2005, From what I remember Tommy Lee, Thacrkray, Washbrook, Wheeldon, Houghton and Kirk Dixon stood out that season and around that time. Agar in 2008 should have done better with those, but is argue that the attacking talent in Shaul, Crooks, Lineham, Lancaster, HTW, Dean, Abdull that Radford has/had available is better.

Therfore, according to the yardstick used to measure success on here, he's a better coach than Radford.

And yet we all shouted for him to be sacked and to AP's credit he did just that. Peversely then why is he hanging on to Radford when, as you say, Agar was actually the better of the two.

God knows!

If I remember correctly from several of his post mortums, I don't think 2007 was actually Agar's 'team'. Even when he was leaving, he was still looking for the final pieces of his jigsaw.....

Shame, we'd have won a hat trick World Club titles if only we had given Agar time. Think Radford is in the same mould and we won't win a thing in this Millenium, unless we get rid of him too.

Interesting thought. Clive Woodward is a Rugby League fan. During his playing days he left Leicester Tigers to go and play Rah Rah in Australia. While there he used to go and learn from the Manly coaches. You can see from his time in charge of England, how he brought in elements of Rugby League e.g. Multiple phases, instead of booting it in to touch at every opportunity, Defence coaches (Mike Ford), Jason Robinson etc

I'd still go for Brian or Tony Smith. As Staffs FC said in another post, it's all about fine margins. Either if these two could gain us 6+ points per game and if you apply this to our results over the past few seasons, we'd be knocking in the door of a Top Four place, instead of the Bottom 4.

Before Radford gets ideas above his station, he hasn't been good enough it get us over the line in the tight games and therefore we need to employ a Coach who can.

How about Brian AND Tony Smith, both not contracted for next year, YET.

blimey , I'd be happy with just 1 of the smiths