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| Quote: carl_spackler "Totally agree. IMO there's been a steadily increasing trend over the past year or so of attempting to ridicule opinion and the poster instead of just debating the point being made. Often it also seems to be based upon a quite unusual/selective interpretation of what is actually said.'"
I think both sides are as guilty as each other.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Totally agree. IMO there's been a steadily increasing trend over the past year or so of attempting to ridicule opinion and the poster instead of just debating the point being made. Often it also seems to be based upon a quite unusual/selective interpretation of what is actually said.'"
Agree 100%
As soon as someone has an opinion its shot down as it doesnt fit with a certain few. Some "adults" need to get a grip.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "
On Webster, I'm not sure. He seemed popular in his brief tenure here and was a handy halffback who'll be better for head coach experience. Sounds like Horne is putting a big shift in on video analysis and prep so at worst it's another pair of hands.'"
Webster did nothing as a player. So whats to suggest he'll "turn round" our already improving game?
Are you saying Agar should come back after he's been under Tony Smith a year or 2?
Maybe you should stick to slagging off the posters here and Yeaman, or has he now changed your opinion?
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "I think both sides are as guilty as each other.'"
Absolutely, I never said otherwise. I think one of the reasons it has gotten worse is the very fact that there are individuals on both sides antagonising each other.
However, what I simply don't understand is appearing to think that when you object to a poster's opinions and/or behaviour, the solution is to then behave just as badly by attacking them in the same way and to hunt for further reasons to do so by consciously or unconsciously interpreting every post in the negative way you expect of them. It doesn't help anything and just makes this board a less pleasant place to be. I think it's one of the reasons it's quieter after we win.
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| Quote: frepneyboy "Webster did nothing as a player. So whats to suggest he'll "turn round" our already improving game?'"
What relevance does a playing career have on coaching ability, though? They're not inherently linked.
Quote: frepneyboy "Maybe you should stick to slagging off the posters here and Yeaman, or has he now changed your opinion?'"
How is that any better than the behaviour I complained about and you just agreed with?
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| Quote: frepneyboy "Webster did nothing as a player. So whats to suggest he'll "turn round" our already improving game?
Are you saying Agar should come back after he's been under Tony Smith a year or 2?'"
If you read my post you'll see I did not suggest he will "turn round" our game but that might be useful extra pair of hands when our lack of resources has been flagged recently as an issue. I don't advocate Agar's return, for clarity.
Quote: frepneyboy "Maybe you should stick to slagging off the posters here and Yeaman, or has he now changed your opinion?'"
I've been a defender of Yeaman on here, certainly compared to the majority. A stalwart of the last decade+
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| This is what I was referring to last week with my assistant coach post.
I cannot make my mind up whether it is a good thing or not. I guess we will find out soon enough.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "
I've been a defender of Yeaman on here, certainly compared to the majority. A stalwart of the last decade+'"
On here mainly, not everywhere, for clarity
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Here's the deal. We have a vociferous section on here who are prolific in slating the coach, raising public petitions and calling passholders "disgusting" for compromising the future of the club by having the audacity to financially support it. Those demonstrating some positivity are termed apologists/delusional/cuddle crew. Is this "bullying" too?
Of course it's up to you what you post on here and I don't think I've stipulated a postcount threshold requirement or told you what to say. Maybe that's your cognitive bias. If I come across as intimidating that's not my intention, but like you I'll defend my right to post.
On Webster, I'm not sure. He seemed popular in his brief tenure here and was a handy halffback who'll be better for head coach experience. Sounds like Horne is putting a big shift in on video analysis and prep so at worst it's another pair of hands.'"
Of course bullying cuts both ways, and like I said, everyone should be able to air their own point of view, whether they are in support of what the club does or against it.
Calling passholders disgusting for supporting the club is just as reprehensible as it would be if the same term were applied to soemone who had chosen not to go in protest.
The point is that everyone should be free to express themselves. I didn't agree myself with the petition as I didn't think it was constructive or particularly effective but if that's what someone wants to do then they're entitled to do it, and shouldn't be vilified for doing so.
The fact is I've always put across an objective viewpoint, never once used abusive or threatening language, don't use the terminology you refer to (apologists/delusional/cuddle crew) yet you still sought to apply your term "negative" to me.
I'm neither "negative" nor "positive". I'm a person with an opinion, and it should be respected whether you agree with it or not.
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| Quote: hull smallears "This is what I was referring to last week with my assistant coach post.
I cannot make my mind up whether it is a good thing or not. I guess we will find out soon enough.'"
For me we look under-resourced from a coaching/support perspective. It's whether the resource gaps match Webster's profile.
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| Quote: Lang Park "I'm neither "negative" nor "positive". I'm a person with an opinion, and it should be respected whether you agree with it or not.'"
OK
So, what is your opinion on James Webster as coaching assistant at Hull FC?
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "OK
My view is that given that the team has recently shown form that people have been crying out for why would you want to go adding a new coach into the mix. I think it has the potential to muddy the waters and undo a lot of the good work that has been done.
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| Quote: Lang Park "My view is that given that the team has recently shown form that people have been crying out for why would you want to go adding a new coach into the mix. I think it has the potential to muddy the waters and undo a lot of the good work that has been done.'"
Personally can't see it doing any harm, most people have been crying out for an attacking coach, or some help for Radford, wont be everyone's first choice, but certainly not a bad thing
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "For me we look under-resourced from a coaching/support perspective. It's whether the resource gaps match Webster's profile.'"
I think that's the point exactly.
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| Positive move for me, too many people don't differentiate between a head coach and a coaching assistant.
Was always going to struggle at Wakey.
Get him on board to work with the attack and kicking, both areas we do need to tune up despite recent wins, will be good for Horney to work alongside to give him experience.
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