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Quote: Dave K. "Game set and match Rovers.
Laughed out loud at this. How depressing! icon_sad.gif

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Quote: Doc Brown "This is a problem though isn't it. We shouldn't be relying on one player coming back to offer some support, looking to receive an offload. The whole team should be looking for the chance to allow an offload. Other teams offload for fun as every player seems to want the ball.

Is our offload issue down to the players not wanting the ball or are we perhaps too structured and drilled that we're perhaps stifling any creativity our players have. No one is willing to try something and take a chance when the score is tight?'"

In most of our games we've had players looking to offload but no support to take the ball. Do that long enough and players stop trying to offload.

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Quote: Kosh "In most of our games we've had players looking to offload but no support to take the ball. Do that long enough and players stop trying to offload.'"


Pryce is the prime example, always looking we did it once and Rankin scored off the back of it.

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Kelly is exactly like NRL fans say he is , can sniff out intercepts,does the odd unexpected play but lacks in many other depts and goes missing a lot.I have no doubt he will be targeted and if the jobs done well it will be one of his days to go missing.Would I have him in my side ?yes i would, do I think he will beat Fc on his own ..NO. Earl Crabtree got it right on the Saints/Rovers game although they were un beaten they have not looked world beaters and did not perform well and it took two intercepts and a drop ball to give Rovers a win and no sparkling RL.Who will win? anybody's guess it the derby is the gap between the two huge like many make out ..NO. Whatever the result it wont stop the moaners and it will still leave Radford on the edge.

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Quote: hokeydokey "Kelly is exactly like NRL fans say he is , can sniff out intercepts,does the odd unexpected play but lacks in many other depts and goes missing a lot.I have no doubt he will be targeted and if the jobs done well it will be one of his days to go missing.Would I have him in my side ?yes i would, do I think he will beat Fc on his own ..NO. Earl Crabtree got it right on the Saints/Rovers game although they were un beaten they have not looked world beaters and did not perform well and it took two intercepts and a drop ball to give Rovers a win and no sparkling RL.Who will win? anybody's guess it the derby is the gap between the two huge like many make out ..NO. Whatever the result it wont stop the moaners and it will still leave Radford on the edge.'"


At the moment I would take a win without any sparkling RL

How close do you think we will get to Saints on Monday?

There is plenty of cause to moan at the moment.

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Quote: Diogenes "At the moment I would take a win without any sparkling RL

How close do you think we will get to Saints on Monday?

There is plenty of cause to moan at the moment.'"


Got a chance at Saints IMO, loads of injuries including both halfbacks.

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I'm looking forward to seeing Rankin in the halves, looked very lively that last two games. if we can't get up for this match we may as well pack up and go home now. I can't call it, heart says FC, head says Rovers. If we lose it'll ruin my Easter.

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Quote: hokeydokey "Kelly is exactly like NRL fans say he is , can sniff out intercepts,does the odd unexpected play but lacks in many other depts and goes missing a lot.I have no doubt he will be targeted and if the jobs done well it will be one of his days to go missing.Would I have him in my side ?yes i would, do I think he will beat Fc on his own ..NO. Earl Crabtree got it right on the Saints/Rovers game although they were un beaten they have not looked world beaters and did not perform well and it took two intercepts and a drop ball to give Rovers a win and no sparkling RL.Who will win? anybody's guess it the derby is the gap between the two huge like many make out ..NO. Whatever the result it wont stop the moaners and it will still leave Radford on the edge.'"


I agree in the most part however on that basis it took a drop ball and two forward pass to get Saints close to our score. Many people have said in a denigrating way if it wasn't for the intercepts we would not have won. That is obvious but there was skill involved in both, they were both the result of short passes and not long or looping ones that the opposition can see and take advantage of. What are the many depts Kelly lacks? Yes he can throw the odd wayward pass and miss the tackle. Which match has he gone missing in this season? His opta stats put him in the team of the week not for the first time.

I do not know who will win tomorrow there probably will not be much in it. However as we we have scored the third most points and are equal ninth in points conceded it could well be an interesting time.

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Quote: mosher "I'm looking forward to seeing Rankin in the halves, looked very lively that last two games. if we can't get up for this match we may as well pack up and go home now. I can't call it, heart says FC, head says Rovers. If we lose it'll ruin my Easter.'"


We are all assuming Rankin will play in the halfs but wouldn't surprise me to see our wonderful coach play Abdul.
Naughton also on standby as not certain Shaul will make it.

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Quote: hokeydokey "Kelly is exactly like NRL fans say he is , can sniff out intercepts,does the odd unexpected play but lacks in many other depts and goes missing a lot.I have no doubt he will be targeted and if the jobs done well it will be one of his days to go missing.Would I have him in my side ?yes i would, do I think he will beat Fc on his own ..NO. Earl Crabtree got it right on the Saints/Rovers game although they were un beaten they have not looked world beaters and did not perform well and it took two intercepts and a drop ball to give Rovers a win and no sparkling RL.Who will win? anybody's guess it the derby is the gap between the two huge like many make out ..NO. Whatever the result it wont stop the moaners and it will still leave Radford on the edge.'"


Did you canvass all the NRL fans or just those that suit your argument. I assume all S.L. coaches instruct their players to target him, such has been his impact in just a few matches. Aren't interception tries part of the game anymore and mistakes like drop balls are part and parcel of the game are they not. Mantelleto's drop ball led indirectly to one of Saints try I recall.
I suspect there are more NRL coaches other than Manly that have been alerted to his form and I suspect many S.L. clubs would like him as their half back but hopefully HKR will make it a priority to get him signed up for longer than two year deal he is currently on.

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Quote: Dave K. "Pryce is the prime example, always looking we did it once and Rankin scored off the back of it.'"

It's also the main reason we aren't getting good value from Watts. A big part of his game is his ability to offload and we have nobody even trying to take advantage of it most of the time.

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Quote: Kosh "It's also the main reason we aren't getting good value from Watts. A big part of his game is his ability to offload and we have nobody even trying to take advantage of it most of the time.'"

As much as I think a lot is Radford fault, I don't believe he is telling them not to back up. Our players just seem a bit dumb.

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Quote: hokeydokey "Kelly is exactly like NRL fans say he is , can sniff out intercepts,does the odd unexpected play but lacks in many other depts and goes missing a lot.I have no doubt he will be targeted and if the jobs done well it will be one of his days to go missing.Would I have him in my side ?yes i would, do I think he will beat Fc on his own ..NO. Earl Crabtree got it right on the Saints/Rovers game although they were un beaten they have not looked world beaters and did not perform well and it took two intercepts and a drop ball to give Rovers a win and no sparkling RL.Who will win? anybody's guess it the derby is the gap between the two huge like many make out ..NO. Whatever the result it wont stop the moaners and it will still leave Radford on the edge.'"


In that case You had better hope they continue to perform under par for your sake on Monday.
You commented on the fact that it took two intercepts from Rovers and a drop goal, well that's all part of the game and two aspects that take a degree of skill and awareness.
You also forgot to mention that, had it not been for two obvious St Helens forward passes the score would not have looked so respectable as it did for saints.
With regards to tomorrows game, i never dare to make a prediction regardless of form, I've watched the game between these two for so many years and seen the form book turned upside down that many times, that now i believe it just comes down to who wants it more on the day .
I'm certainly Looking forward to tomorrows game and expect the atmosphere to be at full volume in front of the sky cameras, let the contest begin. icon_biggrin.gifRUMMER: icon_smile.gif

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Hate derby matches and they never go to form. A lot will depend on hulls kicking game, if you can keep us pinned in our own 30 we'll really struggle. If we get equal field position then I fancy our chances

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Heart says Fc , head says dobbins (mainly due to injurys)
I feel sick with nerves already and it's not even game day !!! Coyh

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