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| Quote: *1865* "I wouldn't even wait for that, I'd have binned him off already. One good season and he thinks he's Greg Inglis.'"
Of course but then it's not your money is it?
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| And if he does become the next Greg Inglis, what then? You're happy that he was binned of due to his poor attitude; which is no doubt down to his advisers, who his dad is and is age.
I think he should be given a full season in the centre to see how he goes.
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| Quote: Diogenes "I wonder if Agar and Smith will want him to bulk up?'"
Quick question - do you think Crooks has the physique to make a top RL centre? Or the defensive qualities?
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| Quote: Kosh "Quick question - do you think Crooks has the physique to make a top RL centre? Or the defensive qualities?'"
A top SL centre or top (world class) centre? If the latter then probably not, although he is only 21. If the former then yes and yes. He is already an above average centre in this comp even if he never improves one iota.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "A top SL centre or top (world class) centre? If the latter then probably not, although he is only 21. If the former then yes and yes. He is already an above average centre in this comp even if he never improves one iota.'"
I disagree. He's a defensive liability currently and unless that improves he will never be better than around average overall. He's also messing the club about which I find unacceptable. He seems to think that at age 21 he knows it all and has nothing to learn. That attitude does NOT lead to greatness. Quite the opposite.
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| To play centre you have to be able to tackle a centre and these days centres take some tackling. You don't need size for that if you develop a good technique. I think Crooks will get there but perhaps not for us.
Timana Tahu is going to be released by the Knights if we want to continue our policy of signing really really really experienced players.
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| Quote: Kosh "I disagree. He's a defensive liability currently and unless that improves he will never be better than around average overall. He's also messing the club about which I find unacceptable. He seems to think that at age 21 he knows it all and has nothing to learn. That attitude does NOT lead to greatness. Quite the opposite.'"
How do you know he is messing the club around? I don't claim to know different but in my eyes it seems that it is FC/Radford messing him about and I feel sorry for him.
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| Back the original post, so far there has been a massive upgrade player for player, I have no doubt we will improve next season, if that progress if enough though I'm not convinced.
Big questions still at hooker and if Cunningham can replace Heremia and in the centre position.
If you look at team stats, in every area we are in the top 8 apart from clean breaks and mistakes too areas that need improving massively, I'm still not convinced with have line breakers in the team.
Another centre is a must even if Crooks stays, if he does go, hopefully either Sa or Rankin will play there if he goes.
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| Quote: Kosh "Quote: Kosh "I wonder if Agar and Smith will want him to bulk up?'"
Quick question - do you think Crooks has the physique to make a top RL centre? Or the defensive qualities?'"
If he bulks up will he lose some of his other qualities such as pace?
Surely defensive ability can be trained with good coaching? Unless he has no heart of course. Are you suggesting that?
I don't think he'll ever be world class if that's that you mean but I do think he has the potential to be an established Super League standard centre.
He is the best centre currently at Hull FC. Yeaman's failings are well known and he is virtually past it. Sa seems only to be able to manage 15 minutes.
Crooks is definitely a better centre than Whiting.
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| Huge trade up at half back which will improve us dramatically. Still feel we lack a little pace in the centres. Lots of talk about Crooks - my feeling is that if he doesn't want to do what his employer is asking him to do then sell him for as much as possible. He's good with the ball but that's only 50% of the game. Hoping for bigger things from Sa next year with a pre season. Hooker bothers me a bit - I don't think Houghton has had his best season and has ingrained issues with the quality of his distribution and decision making - we need to hope Cunno hits the ground running. Azza has been good for us overall but is the epitome of the inconsistency we desperately need to remove if we're to get anywhere.
All this has to be coupled with a totally revamped attacking structure and shape. I do believe the halves will go a long way to improving this provided they get a platform. We've also played this season almost exclusively without a kicking game which has crippled us at times. That appears to be rectified for 2015.
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| Quote: fc baldy "You don't like players being naughty do you'"
I don't like players taking the , no. Happened far too much in the past. Don't care how good they are/could be, if their heads are up their s and can't be sorted bin them off.
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| Quote: *1865* "I don't like players taking the mickey, no. Happened far too much in the past. Don't care how good they are/could be, if their heads are up their s and can't be sorted bin them off.'"
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| Quote: Mrs Barista ". Heard Crooks to Wire on Twitter.'"
Does it come with Audio description?
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Their owner is worth £60m so probably not too much of an issue.'"
Thought Moran was worth more.
Besides, its ok being "worth" all that, depends how much he can write a cheque for.......
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Not good enough or too good to bulk up?'"
Maybe he doesnt need it. Health wise too
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