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| Quote: carl_spackler "That's how I thought it was. Would seem pretty stupid if you could sign more players just by promising not to play someone on your books.
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I thought if they hadn't played a competitive game in that season, they could be paid off without counting on the cap.
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| It is possible that Radford has been trying to work with Miller on improving some deficiencies before throwing him into the lion's den so to speak. If Miller hasn't been particularly impressive in training that wouldn't necessarily be anything other than good coaching by offering some time to the player. This approach is hampered somewhat by not being able to play him in an A team (scandalous IMO) or on dual reg. Maybe this is why Miller has seemed reasonably happy despite not playing - maybe he has seen some merit in that approach and decided to work with it ?
Now that the first team half back standards have fallen below par the time must have come for him to be given an opportunity.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: Rock God X "I thought if they hadn't played a competitive game in that season, they could be paid off without counting on the cap.'"
True, but you cant sign loads of players and promise that some won't play. Miller would have to leave before we could sign anyone.
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| Quote: Rock God X "I thought if they hadn't played a competitive game in that season, they could be paid off without counting on the cap.'" They can.
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| Quote: Sheldon "True, but you cant sign loads of players and promise that some won't play. Miller would have to leave before we could sign anyone.'"
Yeah, I get that. I was just responding to the poster who said the salary cap wasn't a consideration - it could be in Miller's case (if the coach wants rid).
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Yeah, I get that. I was just responding to the poster who said the salary cap wasn't a consideration - it could be in Miller's case (if the coach wants rid).'"
I think he meant until someone leaves?
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| Quote: Rock God X "Yeah, I get that. I was just responding to the poster who said the salary cap wasn't a consideration - it could be in Miller's case (if the coach wants rid).'"
The salary cap is live. If he leaves tomorrow his cap will have counted from day 1 of the season until now. If he leaves the next highest earner outside the 25 takes the next spot.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Quote: hullbg "The salary cap is live. If he leaves tomorrow his cap will have counted from day 1 of the season until now. If he leaves the next highest earner outside the 25 takes the next spot.'"
I think your wrong there, unless the rules have changed.
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| Quote: hullbg "The salary cap is live. If he leaves tomorrow his cap will have counted from day 1 of the season until now. If he leaves the next highest earner outside the 25 takes the next spot.'"
Not sure that that's the case if he hasn't played all year. I'm not 100% certain, so if you are, fair enough.
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| Quote: Rock God X "I thought if they hadn't played a competitive game in that season, they could be paid off without counting on the cap.'"
For the payoff and going forward, yes. I mean the claims that he and McDonnell aren't playing because of Carvell's arrival. Surely even the RFL don't have a system so stupid that you can bring in an additional player by saying that another one won't play?
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| Quote: Sheldon "I think he meant until someone leaves?'"
I did. Surely a player can't be deemed as not on the cap because they haven't played until the point that they leave?
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| Quote: carl_spackler "For the payoff and going forward, yes. I mean the claims that he and McDonnell aren't playing because of Carvell's arrival. Surely even the RFL don't have a system so stupid that you can bring in an additional player by saying that another one won't play?'"
Ah, right. See, I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to hullbg when he said[i"Will people stop bleating on about the salary cap. Whilst Miller is a player (playing or not) he is a part of the salary cap. He is amongst the top 25 earners so he will currently count on the cap no matter if he plays or not."[/i'"
If only there was some way of making it clear which poster I was responding to. Some sort of quote facility, perhaps?
But yes, there's no way Miller isn't playing because of Carvell's arrival.
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| Miller must be given a chance now. It's not working in the halves so let's try something different.
If not Miller then why not give young Tyson-Wilson a try?
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| Relevant sections
Quote: "(d) A Club may seek prior dispensation in writing to the RSCM to exceed the Aggregate Liability by a specified amount. In making a decision, the RSCM will act reasonably, taking into account one or more of the following factors
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Comment to Clause 5.3.2); or (b) more than his Salary Cap Value (if, for example, he plays more games than expected and/or the Club wins more games than expected). In neither case would this have any impact upon the calculation of that Player’s Salary Cap Value for that Salary Cap Year. '"
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Quote: "A Club’s “Players” are the 25 Players registered with the Club and eligible to play in the Super League who have the highest Salary Cap Values at the time in question, whether or not they have played for the Club in a Salary Cap Relevant Match in the Salary Cap Year to that date, in addition to all other players at the club who will or do play in a Salary Cap Relevant Match. '"
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| Miller is not the answer you do not bring a kid in to try and lead a team around the park when their low on confidence that would not be fair on him or the other players and last season we won more matches with Azza and horney at half's than any other pairing
Its simple the players need to get their fingers out and execute what they are practising in training bring the same attitude to the game as Gaz Ellis does week in week out instead of coming up with mindless plays individual errors and brain farts like yemo Crooks and rankin came up with yesterday which cost us the 2 points
I will give the forwards and the young guys who stepped up credit thought they came in and stood up with who we had missing up front thought we more than matched them which makes our execution even more frustrating the players must give some honesty this week and put it right on Friday night, for me no wholesale changes give the players out their a chance to redeem themselves I might just drop Yemo for whiting if Shaul available bring him back and maybe Rankin into the half's where he is best I think
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