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| he's been charged with a grade D offence
if guilty it's 3-5 games
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| Quote: FrEaK-HullFC "he's been charged with a grade D offence
if guilty it's 3-5 games'"
Quite right too. Hope he gets the full 5.
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| no EGP on a Grade D is there?
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| Quote: Neil HFC "no EGP on a Grade D is there?'"
Nope.
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| Quote: FrEaK-HullFC "he's been charged with a grade D offence
if guilty it's 3-5 games'"
Clearly should have walked, Ganson & Smith in the Video box saw the replays and knew he would be certain to get a ban and could have intervened (as the Video ref did on Moa v London). If Elima had gone there would have been no Catalan comeback, yes we got the 2 points but our points for & against column would have been much healthier if it had been dealt with on the pitch.
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| Quote: Gerrum on side ref "Clearly should have walked, Ganson & Smith in the Video box saw the replays and knew he would be certain to get a ban and could have intervened (as the Video ref did on Moa v London). If Elima had gone there would have been no Catalan comeback, yes we got the 2 points but our points for & against column would have been much healthier if it had been dealt with on the pitch.'"
Spot on.
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| Unfortunately its not just Thaler who has no balls. They're all looking for the easy way out of making a decision. As others have said its the offending team's next opponents who get the benefit of a ban.
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| Quote: Chris28 "Quite right too. Hope he gets the full 5.'"
Seconded.
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| Quote: Gerrum on side ref "Clearly should have walked, Ganson & Smith in the Video box saw the replays and knew he would be certain to get a ban and could have intervened (as the Video ref did on Moa v London). If Elima had gone there would have been no Catalan comeback, yes we got the 2 points but our points for & against column would have been much healthier if it had been dealt with on the pitch.'"
Problem is they do not want off-field officials dealing with discipline. I did exactly that late last season in the championship and the player, whilst sent off, walked away scott free as there was no "relevant" evidence - despite me being stood pitch side as a commissioner within 6 feet of the incident. I was stood down from a game because of this. The incident happened off the ball and wasn't on the video.
Certainly Sam Moa was sent off on video ref intervention - VR's would often say to the ref, its a bad one in their ear, but on this one they have kopped out. Player safety is becoming less paramount in my opinion and that is part of the reason I have not been to a game since.
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| Quote: Mick Cranes Sidestep "Problem is they do not want off-field officials dealing with discipline. I did exactly that late last season in the championship and the player, whilst sent off, walked away scott free as there was no "relevant" evidence - despite me being stood pitch side as a commissioner within 6 feet of the incident. I was stood down from a game because of this. The incident happened off the ball and wasn't on the video.
Certainly Sam Moa was sent off on video ref intervention - VR's would often say to the ref, its a bad one in their ear, but on this one they have kopped out. Player safety is becoming less paramount in my opinion and that is part of the reason I have not been to a game since.'"
There's a real lack of consistency in refs that annoys me. In the Moa case the VR was involved but not in this case on Friday night. I seem to recall that there was a similar hit to the Moa one the night before on the TV but a completely different outcome?
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| Its crazy that a player can be sent to the sin bin for putting his hand on the yet if he makes a direct assault on a player the referees do nothing. In this instance the penalty was for a 'flop' not the deliberate attempt to injure a fellow professional !! It begs belief !!
One of the numerous reasons the game is struggling at junior level is that parents do not want their children to play what is perceived a violent game. When a similar scenario happened in Oz the NRL quickly acted by handing out massive bans and the game was within a season or so cleaned up. The NRL realize the importance of the junior game, recognized the link between violent conduct and falling junior numbers.
When will the penny drop with the idiots at the RL ?
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| Quote: Mick Cranes Sidestep "Problem is they do not want off-field officials dealing with discipline. I did exactly that late last season in the championship and the player, whilst sent off, walked away scott free as there was no "relevant" evidence - despite me being stood pitch side as a commissioner within 6 feet of the incident. I was stood down from a game because of this. The incident happened off the ball and wasn't on the video.
Certainly Sam Moa was sent off on video ref intervention - VR's would often say to the ref, its a bad one in their ear, but on this one they have kopped out. Player safety is becoming less paramount in my opinion and that is part of the reason I have not been to a game since.'"
I read the link to your situation a while back, appauling and shame that you no longer want to attend games. As you say the VR intervened on the Moa incident and it's that inconsistency thats as fustrating as anything else or are you saying that there has subsequently been a directive that the VR (off-field official) can no longer intervene? Can the Ref ask the VR for advice on something he has not seen?
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| Quote: Gerrum on side ref "I read the link to your situation a while back, appauling and shame that you no longer want to attend games. As you say the VR intervened on the Moa incident and it's that inconsistency thats as fustrating as anything else or are you saying that there has subsequently been a directive that the VR (off-field official) can no longer intervene? Can the Ref ask the VR for advice on something he has not seen?'"
No directive that I am aware of, but we should be using the technology for this type of offence. It was (in my opinion) violent play and warranted a red. It is going to take a player getting seriously hurt to prompt a review of this.
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| Quote: Mick Cranes Sidestep "It is going to take a player getting seriously hurt to prompt a review of this.'"
Sadly I can see that being true. And no one likes to see a player getting seriously hurt.
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| Quote: Doc Brown "Sadly I can see that being true. And no one likes to see a player getting seriously hurt.'"
Not even Elima
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