there is a thing called a salary cap and given the numbers quoted when we tried signing him do you honestly think we have that amount available to be able to sign him..

From last night I think we would only want to keep Shaul

and er, well er, um

I don't know our salary cap position any more than anyone else does apart from Tony Sutton and a few others in the club. Looking at the senior players we have leaving there might have been some room for manoeuvre next season. The signing of Miller would be the most likely reason why we didn't/couldn't pursue Chase again. I think my point was that there always seems to be something that prevents us doing what's required to lift the club to the next level. If we have a full cap and are losing by record scores in play offs whilst at full cap then my point about recruitment/off field performance being below standard is bolstered if anything.

Now that Tickle has gone we may have seen the last of that

You think so ? We over-did it for sure with Tickle but I guarantee you there'll be multiple plays like it in tonight's game and all the remaining ones this season.

Unfortunately that's the problem with having to work within the confines of a salary cap

Some clubs seem much better at it than us though - looked at Saints recruitment for next year ? They've strengthened with quality players in every area that we needed to IMO. Proof that it can be done well despite having a limit on how much players can be paid.

A bit easier for Saint's to get players in all honesty.

Possibly so - but it's the job of the well paid senior staff at the club to change that. My point is that we haven't been very good in this area - it's not just the coaching/on-field issues that are causing the overall underachievement.