Second most tackles in SL for Hull, second most offloads, fourth most carries, fifth most tackle busts?

I don't rate him.

Facts don't interest you then?

I just think he is a average player, I don't see anything special about him

The stats show you to be mistaken.

Why would you even suggest such a cruel torture against your fellow fans?

Westerman is a grafter as his stats show. Teams need grafters and you'd expect a high stats count from a player who regularly plays for most or all of the game. I think fans maybe expected him to be more creative when he signed but in general for whatever reason his contribution has been more with work rate. His biggest asset is his spirit for me - he gives it 100% whether things are going for him or not.

There's lies,damn lies and statistics.

I agree with him. Westerman goes missing in big games. Hasn't at all been good enough this year imo.

Stats, are stats. They are simply measures which don't account for circumstance. For example, some of the impressive stats can be built up in the easier games.

I honestly thought Westerman was one of your better players yesterday.

When Westerman broke through at Cas, he was touted around as a future GB captain in the Paul Sculthorpe mould. Since moving to Hull he has become just a run of the mill back row grafter.
I haven't seen a real bit of quality from him since he set that try up at Craven Park 2 years ago.

Since all stats are gathered under the same circumstances they are an accurate method of comparison between players - especially players on the same team. People like to ignore or dismiss stats that don't back up their own biased assessment of a player, as this thread demonstrates rather clearly.

I'm a her not a him ahha. I agree he might be a grafter, but I still think he is average

most errors, .most penalties conceded,4th in missed tackles

Again - he plays big minutes. That said I do see your point - stats can be used to tell different stories about any player.