They didn't at KC.

well after seeing us throw away a possible 8 points in the last 4 matches and giving the cat a good kicking, ive calmed down a bit, my shirts in the wash and get our tickets next week, we will be big underdogs on sunday,but when the teams come out and the chorus of old faithful rings around the ground its game on, lets get behind the lads, only joking about the cat , it was the dog lol

I would think Adam is in it for the long haul as he's already said multiple times. I suspect he has a lot more stomach for it than some of the more fickle fans around.

As I said the other day there'll be thousands of us there next week cheering the lads on. We've got a performance in us to win it but there's no telling what team will turn up and that's what has to change to become successful. As for it not meaning anything unless we win it I wouldn't go along with that entirely. I think AP ultimately wants to win both comps but a visit this year win or lose might even be better than he had hoped for less than 2 years in. There's no doubt that were we to get there it would offer a big financial boost and help with the investment strategy we have. It would also rekindle some interest in the club. Of course he ultimately wants us to win things regularly as we all do but I think getting there this season would be seen as a step in the right direction regardless of result.

Genius post!

Idiot? Actually just a fan whose watched the lads home n away for over 30 years trying to be positive ahead of a massive game!

Enjoy the school holidays!

Agree but I still think we are lacking size, so a big nasty go forward prop and someone who could change a game with the blink of a eye would put us in the right direction.

Great post. Let's be right, when we have the annual off season thread about preference, should we win a trophy, the CC gets a lot of votes. A Wembley appearance would be a shot in the arm for the club, and more significant than finishing, say, 5th, especially financially.

#ConfidentOfAWin

At last someone talking a bit of common sense I will be there because I love my club and am sure good times are not far away, if you doom and gloomers don't like it don't go simples but leave the rest of us to get behind the team the way proper supporters do then you can jump back on the bandwagon later

When the results throughout the season are analysed, we have not been blown away at all apart from Leeds first up and Catalan away in the league. We have lost some woeful games to supposed 'inferior' opposition and for me our league position is unacceptable.

However, when the big games and big guns have come a calling we have managed to raise our game most of the time. We have given the current league leaders (Huddersfield) 2 good fights, we have given Wigan a bloody good go, we have drawn at Saints and we have beaten Rovers, Leeds, Catalan and Warrington. In short we have taken points off 5 of the 7 teams currently above us in the league.

We are like Liverpool in the premier league. Certainly not good enough over the course of a full season but when we turn up we can and have given EVERYONE a game!!!

I am very quietly confident..........


(Or do I just have my black and white blinkers on )

You have signed these players and you still want more!

At the moment you remind me of wire 2009. Not in a bad way to the point where I am nervous about Sunday. That season was our turning point. We finished 10th if I remember correctly but won the challenge cup and that piece of silverware seemed to catapult us forward giving us the belief that we could win something. So back your team sing loud and proud and let's have a great game of rugby.

Thanks for the clarification - no one on here realised our record was that bad - really they didn't.

Your last comment is basically garbage in that the way one team plays is inextricably linked to the way their opponents play. It's eminently possible for Hull, as they already have done this season, to reduce the overall level of Warrington's play by themselves performing to a high standard. So in the unlikely event that Hull win on Sunday it will be everything to do with how Hull played and not how poorly Warrington played as one leads to the other. The opposite is true for the most likely outcome.

I'll agree to a point that an improved performance can reduce the oppo's performance yet there is thread upon thread on here stating that you have lost your last 5 games due to yourselves being poor against poor opposition. Should that be you played your best game yet the opposition just had a game plan that made you play so poorly??

Quite possibly. We are superb in training when there is no real opposition so I'd have to think that it's a lot to do with the opposition on match day.

I really do believe that most sides in the league of the type who are unlikely to feature in the play offs see Hull as a real target when they play us. I think it's fairly obvious that we have probably the softest under belly of any team in the 14. Get in amongst us and we don't have anyone to take responsibility and instil the mental toughness required during the game itself. Couple that with too many individuals right across the park who seem unable to take responsibility for the quality of their own work and you get multiple defeats to teams who are no more talented but much tougher mentally. When we play the big boys - Wigan/leeds/Wire - we have a bit of a siege mentality ourselves and have done OK in these games but it's a "one-off" scenario instead of the norm.

The coach has a lot to answer for in terms of our structures and support play failings and when that's magnified by a shortage of 'brains' leaders (halves who dictate play) it's not a good mix. Miller could well make it but it's too big an ask for him to be leading the team around this year based on his age and late arrival into the club. We have a chance against Wire as already proven this season but it relies on a siege mentality and a top kicking game backed by our best defence. If we kick well and tackle hard we can nullify Wire's threat (in other words influence their level of play) but to do this we need Holdsworth to play. I hope Gentle simplifies it right down to that - based on what's gone before I can't see any other options available.