11th or 12th tonight with one of the worst attacks and one of the worst defences in SL

top 6 is still achievable for me, get our full team on the paddock and fingers crossed we can get climbing the table, top 4 imo was never on this year, big game against cas fri,

What a joke thread. I see the drama queens are out!

there always come out after we had a loss tommy

Yup. It's pathetic.

of course its achievable i understand people are disgusted in last nights performance no more so than myself and we can see the problems the team has but we are at least a top 8 team top 6 i would say we just need to bang a couple of heads together we can see the passion in the team in the last few weeks when we scored at saints and warrington but i don't think one team member was confident with Seymour last night and not one of them celebrated or wanted to step up and take control Houghton is quiet as a mouse and it was a mistake taking lynch's captaincy off him they need to group together and its going to be a long season

Having watched FC's last two games from a neutral point of view, you are clearly missing Holdsworth creativity and LEADERSHIP to get you around the field, but what really stood out for me was when the game was in the balance in the early stages of the second half you've capitulated. Poor defence and a lack of belief going forward to go onto win the game - I would class you as a workmanlike side at best. The intercept try was created due to the passing right to left being unbelieveable slow - a schoolboy team would have been disappointed. Sorry to reach top 6 you need improve big time - Wigan, Wire, Saints, Catalans, Leeds and Huddersfield are way ahead of you. Your fighting with Bradford, Wakefield, Widnes and Rovers for 7 and 8 - good realistic thread.

In 2009 after five games we were unbeaten and second in the league. We finished 12th.

Last season was a wobbly start - threw away a win at home to Warrington, scrambled a home win over London (who had been battered by Wire and beaten by Saints) then we got beat by Salford. We then won six on the bounce.

Last night was terrible but one poor defeat does not neccessarily mean we will struggle to make the play offs.

2006 was even worse,last night was dire,totally dire but after the Widnes match last season,we respnded well...lets see what happens during week and friday night.

We will finish in the top 8 but for me its looking like were seeing improvement in all areas and getting some consistency to our game. Finishing 7th or 8th wouldnt cut it for me.

Unbelievable!

However our start last year was MUCH better than this year's and don't forget all the hype , better faster

Far better squad in 2006 as well imo, and we had a real leader in Mr Swain!

Let's all relax, it's all too easy to get caught up in the emotion that comes with that kind of performance. 10 games is the rule of thumb for getting a good idea of your top 6. 8th can be won on the last day.

www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 2fqoi.html He could get us to Top 4 not 8 !

www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 2fqoi.html He could get us to Top 4 not 8 !