Spot on. We need two props and a 6 possibly a full back. Seymour is doing well considering hes our only playmaker. He needs help.

Which is why I put that he needs a quality 6

Seymour had his best game for me when Whiting played the 6 role against Leeds, which proves he has class when he has a decent player alongside him.

Baffled at Gentle's decision not to play Whiting there again when it worked so well against Leeds.

Well don't. Cranky old bag tonight, me. I know, not just tonight. Roll on 2013, Gareth Ellis and Yeaman's naked testimonial calendar.

I can email you a picture of my junk if you can't wait for Yeamo's calendar.

Seymour is more than adequate for us if we get a good quality 6 to play alongside him. Kicking game can be a bit hit and miss but he has generally been good for us.

Are you as fit as Yeamo ?

If so copy me in as well please

Thanks, I'm set. Feeling defiled already today after seeing a massive knob banging away towards the Hull fans for an eternity after the game.

Ok. Let me know if you change your mind.

Not for me to say, that! Maybe I should just send it and you can delete it if it doesn't meet your exacting standards.

Don't think the gap's as big as you do, personally. On top of which, the comparison bears no relevance at all. At that time SL was an attractive proposition financially for NRL players, it isn't any longer. Seymour may not be as good as some halves who have come over in the past, but I think there'll be few better coming over in the near future.

And I'll make the same point I have previously on this subject, most SL sides do not have 2 top quality halfbacks, they have one with a good to very good partner. I doubt very much that any side except Catalan will have 2 better halfbacks than Seymour next year, so it's about who we pair him with, not who we replace him with.

The Dykes comparison was made by the OP. I was merely responding.

Fair enough. I still don't think they're 'miles apart' though. Dykes did have the benefit of mainly managing to be fit for a cup run in which we played sh*t teams until the final, so I sometimes think he's remembered as being better than he actually was. In the 12 league games he played we managed 3 wins against the might of Cas (the only team who finished below us that year), Huddersfield (the team directly above us), and Wakey (nosebleed territory here, a whopping 5 places from bottom). In terms of percentages, we had a better win ratio without him than we did with him (in the league).

IMO Dykes is one of those players who people remember how good he could have been rather than how good he was, for one reason or another.