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Quote: Rock God X "I'd agree with that. I just feel he's been unfairly singled out today in what was a difficult second half for everybody.'"


Yes agree with you he didn't do that much wrong and we actually defended their set that resulted from his knock on.

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Although he did ok today he reminds me of Kevin penny but not even at his level . You need more then pace at this level , but hopefully gentle can make him a decent player . Like as been said his positioning is very poor , one kick today and he was stood were briscoe should be . But think we're best just putting this game to bed and forgetting about it as its what I and many others expected .

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Not all young players reach their potential though. Tommy Lee was once rated in the top ten teenagers in the world.'"



True, I'm just saying its a shame for the kid if the comments are true.

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Quote: Rock God X "I seem to be in the minority, but I didn't see it like that. Full back is a very difficult position, and he did as well as could be expected.'"


His positioning was bloody awful for 80 minutes. Yes, Hudds have a good kicking game, but he made it far too easy for them to keep turning him around. Combined with his ambling back and lack of confidence collecting a bouncing ball, it was costing us significant yards at the start of every set.

It's debatable whether or not he's SL standard, but I think it's quite clear that he's not a fullback nor likely to ever be.

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Quote: R.B.A "He was over-exposed too early in his career and he is suffering for it.'"

Disagree, Horney was exposed at 16 yrs old...

When Reece was an amateur he stood out as he was more athletic than most of his opponents, he did not have any particular skill, ie passing, step, pass etc, he simply has not got the skill set to make it at this level, I consider he will make a decent NL1 player in time....I always rated Sheriff higher when they were amateur.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Disagree, Horney was exposed at 16 yrs old...

When Reece was an amateur he stood out as he was more athletic than most of his opponents, he did not have any particular skill, ie passing, step, pass etc, he simply has not got the skill set to make it at this level, I consider he will make a decent NL1 player in time....I always rated Sheriff higher when they were amateur.'"



Christ...now he is crap.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Disagree, Horney was exposed at 16 yrs old...

When Reece was an amateur he stood out as he was more athletic than most of his opponents, he did not have any particular skill, ie passing, step, pass etc, he simply has not got the skill set to make it at this level, I consider he will make a decent NL1 player in time....I always rated Sheriff higher when they were amateur.'"




I'm not saying that Lyne is going to be a world beater and i agree that Sherriff (and Salter) are better players, but he was definately thrust into situations at 16 that he wasnt ready for physically and mentally.
Horney was a different proposition at 16. I saw him week in week out home and away for Hulls Academy at the time and he was far more prepared to take on the challenge than Reece was.

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Quote: fc baldy "Christ...now he is crap.'"

Maybe, not seen him since he went pro, but when they were younger he was the one with the most skill set, which says it all about Lyne really.

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Quote: R.B.A "I'm not saying that Lyne is going to be a world beater and i agree that Sherriff (and Salter) are better players, but he was definately thrust into situations at 16 that he wasnt ready for physically and mentally.
Horney was a different proposition at 16. I saw him week in week out home and away for Hulls Academy at the time and he was far more prepared to take on the challenge than Reece was.'"

I hear what you are saying, both different characters, the jungle drums would have us believe Lyne has bought into the hype a bit too much, whereas Rich as we both know was a different character altogether.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "I hear what you are saying, both different characters, the jungle drums would have us believe Lyne has bought into the hype a bit too much, whereas Rich as we both know was a different character altogether.'"



Bought into the hype? The Rovers Academy lads have said that he has turned into an arrogant so and so if thats what you mean. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: R.B.A "I'm not saying that Lyne is going to be a world beater and i agree that Sherriff (and Salter) are better players, but he was definately thrust into situations at 16 that he wasnt ready for physically and mentally.
Horney was a different proposition at 16. I saw him week in week out home and away for Hulls Academy at the time and he was far more prepared to take on the challenge than Reece was.'"


Reece is 19 and has played a total of 12 first team games (13 today). Dont think he was over exposed.

Tom Briscoe had played at Wembley and for his country by the same age and Lee Crooks had played at Wembley and for GB as well as belting Les Boyd by the same age. Respect.

Dont understand your over exposure argument?

Sheriff was shocking on SKY last year at Hudds so not sure on that comparison either TBF?

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Quote: carl_spackler "I seem to be in the minority, but I didn't see it like that. Full back is a very difficult position, and he did as well as could be expected.'"


His positioning was bloody awful for 80 minutes. Yes, Hudds have a good kicking game, but he made it far too easy for them to keep turning him around. Combined with his ambling back and lack of confidence collecting a bouncing ball, it was costing us significant yards at the start of every set.

It's debatable whether or not he's SL standard, but I think it's quite clear that he's not a fullback nor likely to ever be.'"


His ambling back was no worse than Briscoe's. I'm not saying he'll ever make it at the top level (looks a little slight), but I don't think he was anywhere near as bad as some are making out today.

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Quote: R.B.A "Bought into the hype? The Rovers Academy lads have said that he has turned into an arrogant so and so if thats what you mean. I am more diplomatic than the lads icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: R.B.A "Bought into the hype? The Rovers Academy lads have said that he has turned into an arrogant so and so if thats what you mean. To be fair, given the U20s relative league positions he's probably earned the right to be a bit cocky. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Rock God X "His ambling back was no worse than Briscoe's.'"


Arguably not, but a) the thread isn't about Briscoe so I didn't think it relevant to bring him into it, and b) with Briscoe playing on the wing, his number one job isn't to field the last tackle kicks unless they specifically target his side. At fullback, Lyne's number 1 priority is retrieving the ball for the start of the set, and his positional play and speed (or lack of) in carrying it out made an already difficult job even harder for him and cost us a lot of yards and position.

Quote: Rock God X "I'm not saying he'll ever make it at the top level (looks a little slight), but I don't think he was anywhere near as bad as some are making out today.'"


I don't think he was awful overall (though I would not get close to saying he did well, either), but his positional play was. I don't actually blame him that much, I suspect he's made the move to fullback in an effort to improve his first team chances and maybe not without a little encouragement, but I just don't think he's at all cut out for it.

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