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Quote: hullbg "1. Warrington
2. Saints
3. Catalans (If they sort out their inconsistencies)
4. Wigan
5. Hull FC
6. Leeds
7. Hull Kr
8. Hudds
9. Bradford
10. Wakefield
11. Castleford
12.Widnes
13. London
14. Salford'"


Your kidding yourself if you believe really Hull will finish above Leeds!! You do have a much better coach than last year but he is still unproven. You will miss fitzgibbon badly imo!!

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Quote: Sheldon "On paper I don't think Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Hudds and Wire have improved, one or two may have even gone backwards.

I expect Hudds to struggle to make the eight and Wigan to struggle to make the six.'"


Top 3 WILL NOT change (maybe a different order, but will not alter).....Leeds and Cats will battle for 4th...Huddersfield will take 6th....From there on in, its pretty much the also rans, who early on in the season will get the odd 'shock' win over a more fancied side.....I fancy Hull will be at the top of this group of sides.

As an outsider looking in, I'd reckon a season of steady building should be your target....A record of winning more than you lose would be a realistic target and, most important, allow your new coach space to make mistakes and discover where he needs to improve for 2013 and beyond.....It always seems to me that a section of your crowd have much too high an expectation of your team and, ultimately, the coach gets it in the neck, putting on pressure that isn't the most ideal thing.

With your new owners and coach in place and the right signings, I would expect Hull to be a serious contender in 2014.

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Quote: Sheldon "Probably is Scott but losing Deacon, Tomkins, Hoffman and Maguire and replacing them with Lauaki, Gelling and Wane doesn't look to good to me.

They also look a little light at prop although I expect a Wigan fan to put me right.'"


Wigan were a prop light last season what with Fielden missing nigh on the whole season. To a certain extent he's Coley's replacement and they've signed that Welsh lad Dudson haven't they?

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Quote: Superbowl Scott "Wigan at 6th is a huge call.'"


Its a crazy call,

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Wigan will have a fully fit Gareth Hock back nxt season though.

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Quote: tonylRobin "Wigan will have a fully fit Gareth Hock back nxt season though.'"


You mean the drug cheat!

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Quote: jarvis12345 "Your kidding yourself if you believe really Hull will finish above Leeds!! You do have a much better coach than last year but he is still unproven. You will miss fitzgibbon badly imo!!'"

Leeds will do ok if their ageing squad stay fit, they will look more to finishing the season strongly IMO.

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Quote: Smiggs "You mean the drug cheat!'"



Not exactly performance enhancing drugs where they(from what I remember)?

Think you should count yourself very lucky it was only Gleeson who was tested at the time!

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Not exactly performance enhancing drugs where they(from what I remember)?

Think you should count yourself very lucky it was only Gleeson who was tested at the time!'"


Are you insinuating other players were taking banned substances at the time?

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Quote: hullandbroncos "Once your in the Semi's mate has to be final all the way wouldn't be happy dropping out at semi's'"

Don't get me wrong mate, I would love to get to the final and win it all icon_biggrin.gif

The semis would show improvement. That's what this season is about for me, not necessarily winning trophies, but improving our game as a whole.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "Don't get me wrong mate, I would love to get to the final and win it all
I don't think what round you reach in the Cup is any sort of measurement of how you have improved.... icon_confused.gif

So if you reach the semi's after a relatively easy passage (e.g. Swinton, Rochdale & Leigh, all at home) and then get smashed by a Saints or Leeds, then that is better than a close 2 point defeat away at Wigan in the 1st Round??

The true barometer of improvement will come in the League....The Cup, unless you reach the final, is a distraction, which has a fantastic prize at the end.

The one thing the Cup can be, if built on properly, is a springboard to future success in the league....Something that Hull almost did in the mid 00's and what Wire are close to doing right now.

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I don't think what round you reach in the Cup is any sort of measurement of how you have improved....
And yet its a distraction that all clubs seem to want to do well in. IMO the differnce between league and cup is the ability to win knock out games, just like the playoffs. During the regular season teams can afford to lose a game but with knock out rugby there's that added pressure, that's why the top sides are top sides, expierenced players

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I don't think what round you reach in the Cup is any sort of measurement of how you have improved.... True, however semi would still be an improvement on recent years in terms of round achieved. I've said for years that it's the league we need to focus on, and, like you say, that will be the true barometer of improvement.

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I don't think what round you reach in the Cup is any sort of measurement of how you have improved....
All true, however we've not beaten a Super League side in the Cup since the 2008 semi final. I'd take reaching the semis as a success and an improvement if that includes a couple of wins over top flight sides.

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