I don't want to denigrate our recent high scores but let's face it Salford, Crusaders and Wakefield are terrible and Cas are in free fall.

Only in July we played Leeds (twice), Saints and Wigan and lost the lot.

Agar has turned us into the archetypal midtable team.

Very pragmatic Jake.

Use all that spare cash for a nice golfing holiday in sunny Espania with the boys.

You can always come on here to keep in touch.

Agar staying you've got to laugh really i'm slowly past caring.

I didn't expect too much movement with regards to players because of the cap but thought we'd get a quality coach.

I thought part of our recent ability to beat poor sides comfortably was because coaches and players are playing for there futures.

The last regime had low expectations so as a player and coach you could get away with sub standard performances and zilch entertainment.

I expected AP to be different but maybe not.

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Sums it up perfectly. Lets see how we perform against Wire next week (If they need the win to take the league leaders shield.) and how we perform in the playoffs in a "must win" game. Regardless of how he does I still want him gone.

Agar deserves some credit for the last few weeks performances, maybe AP gave him and his coaches the kick up the backside they needed we he took over?

That said in my view the goings on under his tenure and his ultimate failure to take this club forward (on the field) has rendered any recent improvements nil and void. The long term future of the team should not be in his hands.

Add to this teams like Leeds and to a degree Saints (severe injuries) going through a 'transitional' stage this year we should have capitalised and be in the top 3 / 4. The fact we aren't speaks volumes for Agars capacity as coach.

I hope you have your prayer mat out Jake. Didn't you say if Hull finish in the top 6 playing attractive rugby you'd start supporting Agar?

That was last year and he was man enough to addmit it

I so hope your right saying that he might do alright with a small club who dont expect to do much

i didnt mean that part of his quote

I just want the comedy value of finishing 5th (very doubtful).
That'll fook all those over who wanted some progression from last season, especially with all them tries were scoring.