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| Quote: fc baldy "Who would you like as D.O.R??????'"
I don't think there is anyone kicking around the game in the UK that I would take, anyone who comes in needs to have no history with the club at all in terms of recent coaching etc. (so, no Kear or McRae), in an ideal world we'd bring in someone like Sterling but I doubt any of this compartiots want to swap Australia for Hull on a D.O.R salary.
It's difficult, is your D.O.R more, less or as senior as your 1st team coach? |
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| Quote: Standee "It's difficult, is your D.O.R more, less or as senior as your 1st team coach?'"
Indeed.
Who is in charge?
Who has the final say?
Who gets the sack when things go wrong - the DOR for signing the wrong players or the first team coach for not getting the best out of them? |
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| Quote: Nobeerineasthull "Indeed.
Who is in charge?
Who has the final say?
Who gets the sack when things go wrong - the DOR for signing the wrong players or the first team coach for not getting the best out of them?'"
none of which are easy points to answer |
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
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| Quote: Standee "I don't think there is anyone kicking around the game in the UK that I would take, anyone who comes in needs to have no history with the club at all in terms of recent coaching etc. (so, no Kear or McRae), in an ideal world we'd bring in someone like Sterling but I doubt any of this compartiots want to swap Australia for Hull on a D.O.R salary.
It's difficult, is your D.O.R more, less or as senior as your 1st team coach?'"
1st team coach does 1st team and signings....No2 deals with 1st team and reserves that way we can have a smooth transition to 1st team...would like a kicking coach as well. |
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How about Nobby or Bomber ?
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| Quote: Ian P "How about Nobby or Bomber ?'"
nope, too much baggage with both, especially McRae, he's way past it now. |
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Can anyone name a time when DOR has worked out in rugby league as i just dont see the point? It says to me that your head coach cant do the job properly so needs help. Id hate the club to go down this route and keep Agash in the process.
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A DOR will more than likely mean Agar stays.
No thanks.
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The major problem is a good coach and a good manager are more often than not, two completely separate entities. Rarely in the 50 years I've been watching the sport have I seen one man who can operate in both positions.
A manager or DOR will set out the strategy for the development and improvement of the playing rosters, including the identification of suitable players, at whatever age-group or skill level. He will also be the man responsible for rectruiting the head coach and ensuring that the development strategy is followed. The head coach is also responsible for the junior coaches and ensuring that they too adhere to the development strategy.
In many clubs, the post of DOR is superfluous simply because the CEO can see what's needed and has the clout to ensure his vision is followed. Once Bomber appointed JK, he effectively relinquished the responsibilities of coaching the first team, he gave JK his strategy and by & large, it was followed. Other factors conspired to emasculate Bomber's role in the club but there's no denying that towards the end of his time with us and the first couple of years under JK, were the best we've seen in the SL era.
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