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| Quote: cod'ead "You were bitching about how unfair it all seems.
What's the point in whingeing over something you have little knowledge of and certainly zero influence in?'"
Influence I have none, employment law knowledge I have plenty. I am not stating what is fair or otherwise, I am stating what is right for Hull FC, we cannot continue carrying someone who isn't performing the duties for which they were engaged, I have said (repeatedly) that I wish Martin all the best, but as a club we need to look to the future.
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| No one knows what deal we entered into with him so let's not anyone pretend that they do.
I will be gutted if he doesn't play again, which seems the likeliest outcome at this stage, as he is a class centre and was for us even though way off being anything like fit.
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| Quote: Standee "where is the money coming from, if he's on £60k for next season then it's a chunk of cash.
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But, as I keep saying, it's a chunk of cash we committed to [iknowing[/i it could all go tits up. If there isn't some sort of break clause in there, we'd be legally obliged to honour the contract by keeping him on the playing staff and hoping he's fit at some point in the season, or by paying it up before the season starts.
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| Quote: Standee "I have said (repeatedly) that I wish Martin all the best, '"
And you think the best way for him to recover from his illness would be if his contract was terminated without a penny of compensation going his way? Nice.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "No one knows what deal we entered into with him so let's not anyone pretend that they do.
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Not sure anyone has pretended to?
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| Quote: Rock God X "And you think the best way for him to recover from his illness would be if his contract was terminated without a penny of compensation going his way? Nice.'"
where have I said any such thing? I would just like the situation resolved.
As Staffs has said, I'd much rather see him playing for FC again having sorted out whatever his issues are, that would be the best outcome for all, in my opinion.
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| I don't claim to know what's going on but I don't believe he will play for Hull FC again.
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ITS ROUGH ITS TOUGH ITS RUGBY LEAGUE!!!: |
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| Don't know if its been mentioned already and tbh I can't be arrised to look back, but if he is suffering that badly from whatever depression it is then maybe Sean longs Twitter could shed some light on it.. as to me it seems he seems to be enjoying himself quite well for a man on 'compassionate leave'.. both should stop 'robbing' the club and leave imo if either actually gave a toss about hull FC..
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| Stupid move by the club anyway and if it now means us having to pay up the second year then its even more laughable
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| Quote: Standee "where have I said any such thing? '"
You strongly implied it when you said
Quote: Standee "what would happen to you in your employment, would you employer pay you up x thousand pounds?'"
Quote: Standee "lets just keep paying players not to do the job for which they were employed, a sure fire way to a top 4 finish.'"
Quote: Standee "where is the money coming from, if he's on £60k for next season then it's a chunk of cash.'"
If that's not saying we shouldn't pay him up, I don't know what is.
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| Quote: Rock God X "You strongly implied it when you said
then you're misunderstanding me, he should be paid reasonable recompense, but not a full years salary, IF he isn't capable of fulfilling his contract.
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| The drawback is,we could actually do with a player of his quality.Like some others I can`t see him wearing a Hull shirt again.
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| I hope he enjoys the train to Liverpool and then going to a concert with Longy tonight.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
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| Wont the insurance kick in though to pay his contract? I was off last year for 12 weeks on full pay but if we go over the 13 weeks then it is SSP for another 3 mths then a insurance kicks in and pays you 80% of your wage.
End of the day....does it matter if we are paying him...surely his health comes 1st?????
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| Quote: Standee "then you're misunderstanding me, he should be paid reasonable recompense, but not a full years salary, IF he isn't capable of fulfilling his contract.'"
Backtrack all you like, it was pretty clear. If he isn't capable of fulfilling his contract he is entitled to have it paid up - just as he would if he suffered a physical illness or injury.
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