There have been those who, whilst not exactly saying they expect FC to be winning silverware, constantly go on about us being a massive club and that we should be at least challenging for trophies.
Last time I looked, we were still in the C.C. and still in contention for the play offs.
The reading on this forum of late has been all doom and gloom. So, before I repair to the garage with the hosepipe, and the Hemlock wine, can someone tell me how we are a 'massive' or even 'big' club. We have never dominated the scene like Wigan, St. Helens or Leeds.

you are misjudging what [isome[/i people have said, we play in a state of the art stadium, we operate at full cap, we have a lot of season pass holders, all of those things mean we [ishould[/i be competing, the reason we aren't has been a constant for the last 3 years, a poor coach.

It isn't "all doom and gloom", it is "reality".

I take it you weren't an FC fan before SL?

I think most Hull fans do not think we have a "God given right to win", I know I don't. However, the frustrations of the last three seasons are that the same obvious problems on the field keep re-occurring. For example,

• Players playing out of natural position.
• Poor bench rotation and selection.
• Nonexistent progress of young players.
• No obvious improvement of younger players that break into first team.
• The fact we haven’t had a healthy half back in four years.
• Players regularly not turning up for perceived lower key games.
• Slow play of the balls.
• No kicking game.

The list goes on.

Yes I was. I can remember the late 70's, early 80's when we had some success, without totally dominating.

poor management has stopped hull totally dominating,whenever we have had some success instead of consolidating,we have flogged players off.hulls record of trophy winning pales when you compare it to wigan,saints and leeds.it amazes me how saints,no matter how many players and coaches they change always seem to be able to continue playing fast attacking rugby and stay in the top 4.

Even with the quality team/sqaud we had in the early 80s we were still inconsistant, sure we won some trophies but 1 league & 1 challenge cup(of the main trophies) in 5 years at the top wasn't exactly fantastic when you look at the players we had.
I mean we lost the 81/82 championship due to getting battered by Whitehaven away (who finished bottom that year) and also losing to Fulham. Then there's the 82/83 season and the disapointment of losing to Fev (twice that year)

Hull have pretty much had very good support throughout their history and plenty of interest i9n the game but on the field invariably we've lacked that cutting edge that distinguishes the really successful clubs from the 2nd tier who win something every 10 years or so with a good couple of seasons here and there.

Just as an aside - I sit next to a guy at work who is very White and he has just shaved his head - I am sitting there and out of my eye corner I see Richard Agar - HELP !!!

Unusually I find myself agreeing with everything Standee has posted on this thread.

Having supported the club from short trousers to a hip replacement, I have never felt such a disparity between where we are - hoping to finish 8th at best - and where we might reasonably expect to be given our infrastructure and support - at least competing for top four.

We have some players - Briscoe Yeaman O'Meley IMO - who would have merited a place in the team in our successful eras and a good squad of SL standard players but overall our performances on the field rarely inspire confidence that we can even challenge for honours. This is not a reaction to our last 2 defeats but an accumulation of disappointment over the past 4 years.

Unlike others I know I will buy a pass next season as its part of my DNA and I am grateful that I don't have the doubts that fans of such as Wakefield suffer about the off field viability of their club but nonetheless my match day enthusiasm drops year on year.

However I live in hope

Surely this is grounds for an harassment case, you should not have to endure this kind of offence behaviour

I would be 'content' with a 6th-8th finish IF I had any belief what so ever we could beat big sides on the day and get to Old Trafford.

for example Catalans are probably going to finish 5th, but they have beaten sides like Wigan (twice) and Wire and come playoff time their fans can be confident they can mix it with the best, and winning the 2/3 games to get to the Grand Final isn't a ridiculous thought.

Sixth place is not good enough. If we finish 6th it's been another disappointing season.



Charming.

In all my years on this board, this is without doubt the most pointless post I have ever read. Are you Richard Agar?

Do you know whats depresing? Reading the sad, moaning posts....get alife! It's a product if you like it, don't agree with it watch something else.
The modern game if RL has changed....even the aussie commentators acknowlege that. Forget flair....it's all strict game plans...some better and better executed than others.
Everybody has an opinion.....but 90% maybe even 95% of the posts on here are moaning about something.... Cheer up, there is always someone worse off than u!
I am passionate about Hull FC, and while not always agreeing with what's goes....I remain committed the team. The same goes for the game itself...

FC 4 life...