Indeed, there wasn't a lot to be gained by releasing further detail.

I think the problem is the lack of top refs and at the moment they are not going to please everyone all the time but it all comes down to a lack of consistency which seems to be the major the problem.The RFL have had plenty of time to sort it out but i do agree it wont be sorted out overnight.Maybe they should open up some kind of refs acadamy and stop tinkering with the bylaws of the game every season, putting added pressures on the refs and confusing everyone else.

Well said Ian.

No matter how bad a coach or club thinks a referee is, there is a clear method for making their feelings known. Publicly slating an official in an abusive manner is bringing the game into disrepute and cannot be condoned or even ignored, no matter what the circumstances.

It is a problem recruiting and developing referees anyway, public abuse from a Superleague coach will not help that matter at all. What right does any speccie, club official or player think they have to personally abuse any referee?

What about consistency from players & coaches?

When are they going to consistently play by the rules and avoid making forward passes, knock-ons etc etc etc?

depends if you abuse him for his performance, or his lifestyle choices.

Neither are acceptable

of course it is acceptable to bemoan a woeful performance for someone supposedly qualifies in the art of refereeing, Child ruined that game and as a paying spectator I have every right to tell him my thoughts, if you have a bad meal in a restaurant you can refuse to pay at the end, at the KC, once you're in, you're f'd!

He really didn't.

No .............

This is RL not the other game, we are above all this sort of thing. People have bad games and sure he had a bad game, people cook bad meals from time to time. Most times you argue with the waiter, not the chef as this would lead to confrontation and he wroks with some truly amazing tools of trade.

There is a chain of complaint for speccies is to the RFL direct, the clubs have there own route. The RFL work for the clubs afterall and its everyones interest to get it right, Mr Childs could do with some input and will get it.

If I have a bad meal I ask to speak to the Chef, he cooked it, not the waiter. The RFL have no previous for ever doing anything other than protecting the referees, no matter how poor they are.

I, and everyone else, has a right to complain.

The chef is probably delighted to meet the complainant in person.

You'll have all manner of surplus ingredients in your next dish.

I wouldn't do it somewhere I hadn't been before for that very reason, I'd just not go back, but I have spoken to chefs on a number of occasions and, bar one, they have always been greatful for the criticism, so long as it is constructive.

Anyway, talk about thread drift, apologies.

You can't eat Italian much, saying the pasta was undercooked to an Italian could get very nasty

There is a complaint route for us to use and I would like to think that this game perhaps more then most does listen to its core supporters more then others. With this incident as with others similar the RFL where duty bound to stand behind the official in line with the rules. By complaining in the manner he did Rich broke the rules and made any sort of FC protest nul and void.

Hull FC made no official protest about the event, that speaks volumes. I know where you are coming from and I was also frustrated that day but most of us can not vent our feelings direct to the person concerned, good job too .

I wasn't, for one second, condoining Agars actions, but you and cod'ead were suggesting we have no right to complain, as customers, I believe we do.

Quote: Ian P "You can't eat Italian much, saying the pasta was undercooked to an Italian could get very nasty Think you'll find Hull Fc did make an offical protest www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=16918

Quote: Ian P "You can't eat Italian much, saying the pasta was undercooked to an Italian could get very nasty Think you'll find Hull Fc did make an offical protest www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=16918