I'm not rating them on their past performances, I'm rating them on my opinion of the quality of their squad. It is not as good as ours and should not be considered less likely to finish bottom of the pile than ours, regardless of the opening results (and really, there's only the Harlequins win over Leeds that is an out of the ordinary one).

The odds are reflective of our performances IMO, as even now we should still be far less likely to finish bottom than them on paper.

I`d swop positions right now.

Fair enough, nothing was unfair. But it still means little. They have had a very good win over Leeds, a decent result over Crusaders, and beat a poor Catalans performance. The table is very misleading after so few games, so to gloss over the fact that we are now considered more likely to prop up the table than them is ok because they are the league leaders after only 3 games is a bit of denial IMO.

But would you swap squads, though? That's more the point I'm trying to make.

No I wouldn`t in all fairness,but it would still be better at the top,even at this stage of the season.

Imagine how good agar would be with that quins squad

in your opinion its not as good as ours.....3 or 4 injury prone highly paid players...do quins have those??? a highly inept(according to most) coach......does quins have one of those??????
a bunch of players who are willing to put the effort in win or lose............do we have those??? i think not

i reckon the rfl have done us a favour by giving wakey and crusaders a points deduction this season as we would look a damn sight worse in the league if they hadnt

Two years ago this weekend we went top of the league by winning at Huddersfield. It was great at the time but within a few weeks it was meaningless as we started to slide down the table.