We've had these sort of posts for the last three seasons but have had record pass sales each year!

I've just posted on the Agar debate thread that I won't be renewing my pass next year. We save what amounts to 3 games by getting a pass which IMO only represents good value if the team offer value on the pitch. Based on what I've seen this year I'm going to keep the cash in my pocket and wait and see what we perform like, if we play as we all hope then I'll glady take the hit and pay for the additional 3 games (either that or watch 3 home games on Sky) at the end of the day I'm not gambling £185+ on us playing like we have for the last three years again. I completley agree though that for what they cost the kid's passes are a no brainer

i watched most games in the 60s and 70s,they didnt always put the effort in.there has been some displays this season where the effort hasnt been there,i will agree,but i dont think you can say that about the last games.unlucky last week with 12 men with total effort.last night i dont think the effort was as good as last week,but the main problem last night was as as been all season the inability to score points.we do lucky poor with ball in hand.you always know in any paasing move we do someone will either make an awful pass or the ball will go down.its very laboured at times.

But they comes a point when people just dont buy the spin anymore. They lost me as a passholder two seasons ago and now im thinking of knocking more games on the head with looking at a 25 quid entry fee (Thats a tenner more then Wigan). I love the club too much to stop fully going but the amount of games Ive slashed down to is unforgivable considering I was a 20 plus games supporter not so long back.

I dont think pass sales will be down gone are the days the faithful dictated what happened at the club. We are happy to just sit there and accept mediocrity.

Don't include me in your we. I don't accept mediocrity but I know without my support and those like me my club is finished. I don't want that so I support it through thick and thin.

Well said!

I am and will.

Boards realise this and will make changes if they fear losing money, especially a profit making one.

Not being able to go all the home games we do not buy Season Tickets. But from talking to friends and relatives, it seems a lot of people receive the Season ticket and/or shirt for a Christmas present.

The last two seasons have sold a lot of tickets with the signing of big name players. (the Crocker fiasco didn't really come to light until after most Season Tickets were bought) So as Mrs B. says (third time I'm agreeing with her in the space of a couple of weeks!!) the board need to come up with something/body to grab the imagination.

The only way things will improve, is for the board to act on their sound financial state and invest in either a Coach with more experience and ideas or players that can really lead on the pitch (like Richard Swain did)

P.S. Sean Long's autobiography is out in paperback now, updated since the hardback edition.

If it wasn't for the current board we would already be history.

Yes but at some point you have to run out of blind sheep to follow you

I personally don't have a season pass due to possible work commitments which may make it impossible to get to certain games. Having said that, I've only missed 2 home games in the last 4 years, and for one of those I was out of the country. So it would have in my favour to buy one, but he ho.

I reckon season pass sales will still be around the same level as last year (9000 was it?) may even go up slightly. But I do feel people's patience is starting to wear a little thin. I know this is in the immediate aftermath of last night's dissappointment, but most supporters recognise that what we have at the moment (in terms of playing strength and the coaching set-up) is basically what we will go into next season with.

Unlike the last couple of years, it looks highly probable that there will be no new headline signing to trumpet and no radical change to the make-up of the squad. Couple this with the rather disappointing end to the current campaign (2 wins from the last 6 games) and its understandable that at the moment many on here are a little cool about next season's prospects.

Come next February and I'm sure most of us will be refreshed and raring to go once more (passholders or otherwise). But I do feel that without any obvious marketing ploy to energise the faithful, the club will be relying/hoping on the fans sense of loyalty to ensure we remain one of the best supported clubs in British RL.

We've ended the year with only 2 wins from the last 6 games, one of which came courtesy of an 80th minute penalty, and I did get a feeling when walking out of South stand last night that a layer of patience has been stripped away in recent weeks. I still think we will be one of the best supported sides in the game in 2011, but also get the feeling that for some fans they are approaching a crossroads of sorts. More of the same served up in 2011 (in terms of results, performances and league/cup position) will only serve to test some peoples patience to breaking point.