what happened was he had discussed at length a very good deal with us however he was very honest and said if Wigan even come close to FCs deal he would prefare to stay at Wigan as he has enjoyed it so much and the club had helped him personally so much he wanted to repay that and also the incoming players meant it was an exciting time to be at Wigan, however if Wigan didnt play ball then his first stop was the KC to play for us!!
As is now open news Wigan matched our deal .
good luck to him at least he was honest about it all from the off, wish him well and must admit he is a likeable player in a decent vein of form and playing for a very good club.

Oliver Wilkes

Having missed out on Fielden, LMS, Hargreaves and god knows who else, are there any good British props available?

Or to put it another way, are there any available who are better than Dowes?

nick scuton- obviously a fee would have to be involved hes still contracted but with bradfords finalcial problems a decent fee i feel would be accepted, very good english prop still young better then radders and dowes and hes already knows a bit about the club.i would be very happy with this signing, cant think of any other ooc english props that are good enough so we may have to look at getting players with a fee involved. another player jake emmit been rumoured to be signing for cas but again very young english and going from what saints and cas fans think of him he looks a good player already.

bradford won't let scruton go,surely!!!

Our front row is now shafted for next season. Go with what we have which isn't enough or gives Dowes another contract who isn't good enough !!

Not looking very exciting for next season at all !

shafted is a strong word IMO
I think you're overhamming the situation somewhat.

We currently have Radford, O'Meley and Moa signed on. We can move one or both of Fitz or Lauaki to prop if needs be. If there is nobody else out there then I'd not be against Dowes getting a 1 year deal.

I think if Calderwood does now stay we could have Calders, Briscoe, Lynne, Sharp, Yeaman, Berro & Turner to cover the backs so i see Whiting moving in to the 2nd row and only being used in the backs in an emergency. Whiting would replace Lauaki who would move up to prop.

Front row: Radford, O'Meley, Moa, Lauaki & Dowes(maybe)
2nd Row: Tickle, Manu, Whiting, Fitzgibbon & Burnett
LF: Washbrook & Whiting
Hooker: Houghton & McShane(hopefully, if a loan move is possible).

what about scotty logan is he ooc in aussy hes gt british passport ,and this lad from union he could make contrbution with a good off season he looked a big lump

scott logan would be a good signing would certainly add some size and a good replacement for dowes

I thought he was retiring this season.

you could be right mate ,but he went well for us and played some good footy back in the nrl he would be a good stop gap ,and like the other poster said better than dowes he bust a tackle did scott