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| Quote: Big Dave T "I like to think i see players based on how they perform with no bias. Fitz has made errors too in most games, his pass to Long was a shocker for example, however for Fitz he makes up for the one or two errors in the rest of his performance.
All would have been forgiven for Yeamo on Saturday had he held the late pass to drive through McGuire and win the game.
Biggest mistake of the night for me was Tickle though bombing the try at the other side of the field. Cost us too.'"
But surely that applies to Yeaman, he missed McGuire early on but then pulled off one or two important tackles. The early one was bad handling from him but McGuire deserves credit for the one late in the game.
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| Quote: PAUL M "But surely that applies to Yeaman, he missed McGuire early on but then pulled off one or two important tackles. The early one was bad handling from him but McGuire deserves credit for the one late in the game.'"
It's not just the one game though. He makes those kinds of defensive mistakes pretty regularly, and has some huge flaws in his attacking game. You know I don't pick on players, Paul - my default position is to support whoever wears the jumper. But Yeaman is not a top class centre and never will be IMO.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "
All would have been forgiven for Yeamo on Saturday had he held the late pass to drive through McGuire and win the game.
Biggest mistake of the night for me was Tickle though bombing the try at the other side of the field. Cost us too.'"
I kind of agree here bud, but it seems a lot more people have a similar opinion.
Regarding yeamo its slighty fickle to say all would've been forgiven IF he had grounded that ball.
Imo everyone of them deserves credit for that performance.
Agree completely tickle took the wrong option, but taking into account briscoe was positioned completely wrongly for 1st try and berro giving away a penalty for grapple on smith ( done something similar against warrington I believe that ended in them scoring ) I find it bemusing we still single out certain players.
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| Quote: Kosh "It's not just the one game though. He makes those kinds of defensive mistakes pretty regularly, and has some huge flaws in his attacking game. You know I don't pick on players, Paul - my default position is to support whoever wears the jumper. But Yeaman is not a top class centre and never will be IMO.'"
Other than Berrigan we don't have a better centre imo. People get things into their heads with certain players and keep going at them. Anything Yeaman does from a positive perspective is ignored if he makes one bad tackle. What about the 3/4 times in a game where he stops attacks and helps to save tries.
It's the same with Horne, a number of players have mentioned his one kick out on the full. Long did it early in the season in a match and it was not mentioned once. Sinfield also kicked out on the full, big deal.
How many Hull players missed tackles for the two McGuire tries and the disallowed Smith try, are those players being singled out.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Other than Berrigan we don't have a better centre imo.'"
That doesn't make him a good centre. It just highlights a big weakness in our backs.
Quote: PAUL M "Anything Yeaman does from a positive perspective is ignored if he makes one bad tackle. What about the 3/4 times in a game where he stops attacks and helps to save tries.'"
This simply isn't true. My main problem with him is with his attacking game in any case.
Quote: PAUL M "How many Hull players missed tackles for the two McGuire tries and the disallowed Smith try, are those players being singled out.'"
How many of them bombed two tries? As the title of the thread indicates, he's being singled out for that rather than for his defence.
Yeaman is a solidly average player. His defence is not a weakness particularly but it also isn't as strong as some claim whenever he gets discussed. In attack he is usually dangerous on the end of a short pass near the line but has little else in his armoury. His backing up and general awareness is atrocious for a centre and his pace is borderline.
He'd be decent backup to a proper centre, but should never be first choice in a side hoping to challenge the top sides. His automatic selection despite his distinctly average form for the last four years is a puzzle and a concern, as was the very long contract he was given.
Berrigan played better in one single game than Yeaman has in four seasons.
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| Quote: Kosh "That doesn't make him a good centre. It just highlights a big weakness in our backs.
This simply isn't true. My main problem with him is with his attacking game in any case.
How many of them bombed two tries? As the title of the thread indicates, he's being singled out for that rather than for his defence.
Yeaman is a solidly average player. His defence is not a weakness particularly but it also isn't as strong as some claim whenever he gets discussed. In attack he is usually dangerous on the end of a short pass near the line but has little else in his armoury. His backing up and general awareness is atrocious for a centre and his pace is borderline.
He'd be decent backup to a proper centre, but should never be first choice in a side hoping to challenge the top sides. His automatic selection despite his distinctly average form for the last four years is a puzzle and a concern, as was the very long contract he was given.
Berrigan played better in one single game than Yeaman has in four seasons.'"
We'll have to agree to disagree. I wish Yeaman had left and joined Saints or Leeds, then we would have seen his true potential rather than in a side where Manu gives him the ball once in a blue moon instead of trying to carry 10 players on his back to the try line. It was noticeable the two times Briscoe got good ball from Berrigan was when Berrigan got good ball from the poeple inside him.
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| Quote: berro's best mate "berrigan should play at centre .......in my opinion he is wasted at 9 and with the emergence of an 80 minute hooker in houghton, berro aint going to get a look in at 9.....
back to were he belongs, in the centres...granted he has lost a yard of pace but he has all the skills to play centre again for me......'"
I thought Berro looked sharp at centre on Saturday.
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| Yeaman had 2 great games against Wire this season. Matt King who is a very good centre never got a look in with him. His defence in those games was 1st class for me. It's all about opinions but to say that Berrigan played better in one game than Yeaman has in the last 4 years is a bit harsh imo.
Yeaman has got flaws in his game no doubt about it but I just think he's put in some good performances this year and gets some unnecessary criticism on here at times. Saying that he should have taken the Horne pass in the 1st Half.
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| Quote: PAUL M "We'll have to agree to disagree. I wish Yeaman had left and joined Saints or Leeds, then we would have seen his true potential rather than in a side where Manu gives him the ball once in a blue moon instead of trying to carry 10 players on his back to the try line. It was noticeable the two times Briscoe got good ball from Berrigan was when Berrigan got good ball from the poeple inside him.'"
There's no doubt that our outside backs have been starved of service over the last few years. I do think that this is used too readily to excuse Yeaman's lack of form though. Poor service shouldn't stop him backing up breaks or generally being alive to the few opportunities available.
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| Quote: PAUL M "We'll have to agree to disagree. I wish Yeaman had left and joined Saints or Leeds, then we would have seen his true potential rather than in a side where Manu gives him the ball once in a blue moon instead of trying to carry 10 players on his back to the try line. It was noticeable the two times Briscoe got good ball from Berrigan was when Berrigan got good ball from the poeple inside him.'"
It was noticeable the two times Yeaman got the ball in excellent scoring positions he dropped it. On the end of two flat passes - the kind of service he is supposed to thrive on but apparently never gets. He hasn't gone to the top of the game because he isn't one of the top centres in the game. His brief flirtation internationally was an over achievement.
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| Quote: PAUL M "rather than in a side where Manu gives him the ball once in a blue moon instead of trying to carry 10 players on his back to the try line.'"
Very good point, ive said this for a while that Manu gets a lot of the balls that Yeamo used to.
For me Yeamo had a decent season and has put Briscoe in for a few that he wouldnt have done for Raynor
Dont see how he can have so many critics after saturday
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| Quote: Staffs FC "His brief flirtation internationally was an over achievement.'"
So how you explain his call to the England train on squad ?
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| Quote: Kosh "That doesn't make him a good centre. It just highlights a big weakness in our backs.
This simply isn't true. My main problem with him is with his attacking game in any case.
How many of them bombed two tries? As the title of the thread indicates, he's being singled out for that rather than for his defence.
Yeaman is a solidly average player. His defence is not a weakness particularly but it also isn't as strong as some claim whenever he gets discussed. In attack he is usually dangerous on the end of a short pass near the line but has little else in his armoury. His backing up and general awareness is atrocious for a centre and his pace is borderline.
He'd be decent backup to a proper centre, but should never be first choice in a side hoping to challenge the top sides. His automatic selection despite his distinctly average form for the last four years is a puzzle and a concern, as was the very long contract he was given.
Berrigan played better in one single game than Yeaman has in four seasons.[/quote]
Best laugh i have had on here for a while....Yeaman is never going to be a Barnett or a Gidley.....as for his pace being Borderline....seen him go in from distance on numerous occasions...ok his handling wasnt good on Sat which is unusual for him,but he is still a bloody good centre....Yeaman is your Craig Hall.So you saw him drop the ball twice on sat...last week v Wire he had King in his back pocket....il judge Yeaman on seeing him week in week out...not just on 5/6 times a season.
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| Quote: Hutchie "So how you explain his call to the England train on squad ?'"
I can't explain it - certainly not on form. Same for many of the train on squad. And last time I checked it was Steve McNamara who had to explain the selections in that squad not me.
I'll put a question to the floor - when was the last time Yeaman turned a game for us ? Got MOM ? Even Turner has managed that this year and he is a makeshift centre. Yeaman is an average SL player and precisely the type of player we need to improve on if we are to progress. His auto-selection in the team has done him no favours in my view.
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| Quote: Hutchie "Very good point, ive said this for a while that Manu gets a lot of the balls that Yeamo used to.
For me Yeamo had a decent season and has put Briscoe in for a few that he wouldnt have done for Raynor
I love Manu and for most for most of the season he has been in great form. Last few weeks for me he has gone off the boil but the one attribute he has to improve is his decision making. He runs the ball far too often that his runs are now less effective as opposing players wait for them. When he does dummy the run and slip the ball to Yeaman it often results in a line break. Manu seems to want to prove hom strong he is at times and if he passed more then when did run the ball he would get more success.
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