where have they all gone??

Quote: EXPRO "I love the club as much as anyone and want success as much as anyone.
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT GIVEN YOUR CONTINUAL COMPLAINING AND WHINING ABOUT AL AND EVERYTHING.
and for the club to recruit someone who can takes us to a level agar can't
SO 4TH PLACE WITH 5 TO GO IN THE REGULAR SEASON HAVING DONE DOUBLES OVER SAINTS AND HKR NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU THEN .

Ironically, you've just hit the nail on the head.

This is precisely the point that we in the non-agar camp are trying to make. Yes, 4th in the table is fine (especially when compared to 11th/12th). Yes, doing the double over both Saints & rovers (in probably the four best games of the season so far) is highly pleasing. But, you're right. It isn't enough for us. Because we believe that this club is more than capable of so much more. Victories over Saints, rovers and the rest should be the norm not the exception. There is absolutely no reason why this club cannot make regular visits to Wembley & Old Trafford over a sustained period of time.

The structure and resources of Hull Fc point towards potentially the biggest club in SL, but those resources are clearly not being transferred into an equivilent level of success by the first team. It is this feeling of settling for second best, of being fourth instead of first which is so frustrating for a section of the faithful. It is the opinion of some on here that one of the reasons for Hull Fc failing to pitch their tent at the very summit of the game is down to Richard Agar. That is our opinion, you disagree I know, but that is what this forum exists for.

Is it wrong for supporters, who follow the club through thick and thin, to want the best, to see their team winning on the biggest stages of all. I reckon that is what Jake was getting at when he says he loves the club. Because we, as supporters expend a large amount of energy on this club. They are interwoven into our lives. The team wins and life is good, the team loses and life is a drag. There are plenty of people in this City whose lives are directly affected by how their chosen team performs each week. Surely we all would love to see a Hull Fc captain lifting a trophy aloft at Wembley or Old Trafford. I'm sure you would just as much as the rest of us. Who knows on that day we may all be friends together .

I should also point out that where Hull Fc are concerned this is hardly new territory. I am rapidly approaching my 50th year on this planet and in my entire lifetime our club has won 6 major trophies (1 Championship, 2 Challenge Cups, 1 Premiership, 1 JPS Trophy & 1 Floodlit trophy) and for a club of our size that is scant return for half a century.

Now fairly obviously Richard Agar can hardly be held accountable for failed opportunities in decades gone by, but for me personally it is a feeling of deja vu that annoys me so much. We could and should be kingpins of British RL. There is absolutely no reason why this cannot be with the right personnel in place. And I'm afraid it is my opinion (along with others on here) that your friend Richard, decent guy he unquestionably is, is not the man to deliver that success, and therefore this club continues to sell itself short.
And that is why being fourth is still not good enough, sorry.