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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "I'd get it checked out then
Does your's show Hodgson outplaying Houghton?
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| Quote: downtheante "Correct - it was a knock on. Said on Sky that he had played the advantage.'"
50/50 call IMO. Without my FC glasses on I would say it went backwards.
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| Quote: Robbo4 "50/50 call IMO. Without my FC glasses on I would say it went backwards.'"
I meant that the ref said it was a knock on and he had played the advantage.
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| Quote: downtheante "I meant that the ref said it was a knock on and he had played the advantage.'"
I'll have to watch it again as I didn't hear the ref say that on Sky last night.
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| Quote: Robbo4 "I'll have to watch it again as I didn't hear the ref say that on Sky last night.'"
the ref doesn't say it but it is implied by Hemmings - they are often tipped the wink by the officials.
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| Quote: Hutchie "Calderwood went for the advantage which would have been a try if he heldit
correct call fvrom the ref who had a verygood game'"
To take advantage, you have to have possession of the ball, which calderwood never did. It was the wrong decision.
Someone suggested that it went backwards. It didn't!
One which did go backwards was one which Tansey spilled whilst facing his own line yet that was pinged as a knock on???????
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "To take advantage, you have to have possession of the ball, which calderwood never did. It was the wrong decision.
Someone suggested that it went backwards. It didn't!
One which did go backwards was one which Tansey spilled whilst facing his own line yet that was pinged as a knock on???????'"
Wrong.
It went forward off his right hand.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "To take advantage, you have to have possession of the ball, which calderwood never did. It was the wrong decision.
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You dont mate, you either have to cross the gain line or make a play that could result in advantage which he tried for
like i said, would people have been happy with a no try decision if he had of grounded it
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| Quote: Hutchie "You dont mate, you either have to cross the gain line or make a play that could result in advantage which he tried for
like i said, would people have been happy with a no try decision if he had of grounded it'"
By that definition any player who collected the ball from an opposition knock on is making a play which could result in advantage. I haven't looked at the official rules, but I would have thought common sense would state for advantage to be taken you have to have possession of the ball.
If he had grounded the ball, he would have had possession / not knocked it on. Why would it have resulted in a No Try decision?
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Wrong.
It went forward off his right hand.'"
Fair enough
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "By that definition any player who collected the ball from an opposition knock on is making a play which could result in advantage. I haven't looked at the official rules, but I would have thought common sense would state for advantage to be taken you have to have possession of the ball.
If he had grounded the ball, he would have had possession / not knocked it on. Why would it have resulted in a No Try decision?'"
How about when the ball is knocked on and a player kicks on to try and dive on the ball over the Try line? If they subsequently knock-on or the ball goes dead the play never gets brought back for the first knock-on does it?
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| Quote: Hutchie "You dont mate, you either have to cross the gain line or make a play that could result in advantage which he tried for
like i said, would people have been happy with a no try decision if he had of grounded it'"
Taken from the rules: "ADVANTAGE allowing the advantage means allowing play to proceed if it is to the advantage of the team which has not committed an offence or infringement."
How precisely did Hull gain an advantage from this? Rather than a scrum 10 metres from the line we faced a 20 metre restart taken by the team which had committed an infringement.
I can't believe I'm even concerned with any of this. The number of decisions like this are too numerous to mention and, regardless of if the ref was right or wrong, he had a very good game overall and allowed both teams to put on a real show for us and the impartials.
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| Thought the ref got that wrong to be honest, Briscoe and Latus made a right mess of it and then Calderwood went to get the ball but never had control of it so there was never an advantage, should of been a Hull scrum.
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| Just to play devils advocate then.
Your given a choice of either
a) a scrum on the opposition 10 meter line
or
b) your winger having an unchallenged run onto a ball trickling over the try line
Which do you choose as its more "advantageous"?
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| Quote: Robbo4 "Just to play devils advocate then.
Your given a choice of either
a) a scrum on the opposition 10 meter line
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b) your winger having an unchallenged run onto a ball trickling over the try line
Which do you choose as its more "advantageous"?'"
I repeat...
"ADVANTAGE allowing the advantage means allowing play to proceed if it is to the advantage of the team which has not committed an offence or infringement."
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