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Quote: pmarrow "The one that got me was Roberts try before HT, not only was that on the back of Tansey failing to find touch but we had three players around Roberts and none reacted to the ball.

Briscoe for me is becoming a liability.'"


Yeah it was really poorly defended by everyone involved. However the try in the 2nd half were the ball was kicked to the wing and then kicked back inside left me fuming, not one single Hull player reacted to either kick. By the time Wigan collected the ball to score it appeared to me that almost every single Wigan player was closer to our tryline than any of ours. In fact we just stood and watched it was pathetic.

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Quote: pmarrow "Agreed it bounced to perfection from a Wigan POV, still think it should have being dealt with prior to the bounce though.'"


Correct it should have.

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Quote: pmarrow "No, I think you'll find yours are.

You can not have an opinion on something you didn't see.'"


I never made any analogies.


Quote: pmarrow "Why?

I was at work last night and didnt even listen to it on radio...got the last 10mins on one of the girls mobiles and she kept telling me the score.....so i dont comment on match as i didnt go and the match thread is bolloxs as well...how can you get a reflection of the game without seeing it.'"


pmarrow said judging a team's performance based on a listening to a commentary on it is like judging a TV programme you haven't seen. That is a pathetic analogy.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "I never made any analogies.


pmarrow said judging a team's performance based on a listening to a commentary on it is like judging a TV programme you haven't seen. That is a pathetic analogy.'"


Not really....

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "I never made any analogies.


pmarrow said judging a team's performance based on a listening to a commentary on it is like judging a TV programme you haven't seen. That is a pathetic analogy.'"



Id say he wasnt that far off.

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Quote: Hutchie "Id say he wasnt that far off.'"


Disagree mate.

If you haven't watched a TV programme you have no idea what happened.

If you have listened to a match commentary, whilst clearly you cannot form as clear an opinion as if you have actually seen the game, you have a good idea of how the team and individuals performed. Particularly if the commentary is unbiased as the Five Live was last night.

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Quote: Hutchie "Id say he wasnt that far off.'"


Maybe he isn't, but then it is quite possible in some instances to judge a TV programme without seeing it. For example, if ITV2 were showing a documentary about Anne Widecombe's fanny, you'd know without seeing it that it was horrible and messy. Rather like Hull's performance last night.

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Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "Maybe he isn't, but then it is quite possible in some instances to judge a TV programme without seeing it. For example, if ITV2 were showing a documentary about Anne Widecombe's fanny, you'd know without seeing it that it was horrible and messy. Rather like Hull's performance last night.'"


There you have it Wilf, " the quote of the week " for the diary mate!!!
give it 15 mins it will be on humberside that wideicombes minge reeks
cant blame Agar for that .....or can we.... eusa_shifty.gif

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Disagree mate.
If you have listened to a match commentary, , you have a good idea of how the team and individuals performed. .'"


add that to geek stats everyone raves about and you still have the square root of nowing nowt about what the fook went on at wigan icon_lol.gif ...

How does he know anne widicombes fanny is messy is a more important subject mind

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Quote: pmarrow "You can not have an opinion on something you didn't see.'"

Really?

You might want to think that statement through a bit more. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Kosh "Really?

You might want to think that statement through a bit more.
I know what you did there icon_lol.gif

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "pmarrow said judging a team's performance based on a listening to a commentary on it is like judging a TV programme you haven't seen. That is a pathetic analogy.'"


Say you didn't watch something on tv the other night, I don't know, lets say Lost. Your mate at work did watch it and tells you it was rubbish. Then someone else asks you what you thought of it. Do you tell him a) you don't know because you didn't see it, or b) it was rubbish?

By listening to the radio the commentators are giving you their own opinion, and you are then somehow trying to pass them off as your own. Yes they might be able to tell you what happened in the game, how the tries were scored etc, but you can find that out by reading the match report. Saying, "Richard Horne obviously had a good game because Gwilym told me so," is not a valid opinion (and I know those weren't your words before you start).

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Quote: GODS UNDERTAKER "Just back this morning, upon reflection heres how I see it.
wide out we looked amateur at best and were undone by the wings being sucked in over and over.
Our sliding defence was almost non existent.
Man on Man we pretty much lost the battle up front as coley and feilden had a blinder.
Long clearly wasnt fit.
Horne was outstanding
in all we got what we deserved on the night against a champion looking side to be fair!!'"

Must be a long way back to hull when your e then icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Say you didn't watch something on tv the other night, I don't know, lets say Lost. Your mate at work did watch it and tells you it was rubbish. Then someone else asks you what you thought of it. Do you tell him a) you don't know because you didn't see it, or b) it was rubbish?

By listening to the radio the commentators are giving you their own opinion, and you are then somehow trying to pass them off as your own. Yes they might be able to tell you what happened in the game, how the tries were scored etc, but you can find that out by reading the match report. Saying, "Richard Horne obviously had a good game because Gwilym told me so," is not a valid opinion (and I know those weren't your words before you start).'"


No, it is not the same thing!

The commentators may give their opinions, e.g. "Tansey has been poor" or "Whiting should have scored" but they also provide facts, e.g. "Radford has been penalised" or "Hall has knocked on". You can listen to a commentary and form an opinion, based on what you have heard. For example I know Berrigan was quiet because his name was barely mentioned on Five Live.

In your analogy it would be like a friend describing in detail what happened in Lost minute by minute. If I hadn't listened to the commentary but someone told me "Hull were rubbish" then of course I couldn't form an opinion.

By the way, Lost was bloody brilliant this week icon_wink.gif

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "No, it is not the same thing!

The commentators may give their opinions, e.g. "Tansey has been poor" or "Whiting should have scored" but they also provide facts, e.g. "Radford has been penalised" or "Hall has knocked on". You can listen to a commentary and form an opinion, based on what you have heard. For example I know Berrigan was quiet because is name was barely mentioned on Five Live.

In your analogy it would be like a friend describing in detail what happened in Lost minute by minute. If I hadn't listened to the commentary but someone told me "Hull were rubbish" then of course I couldn't form an opinion.

By the way, Lost was bloody brilliant this week
You're right, to an extent you can get a rough idea by listening, provided the commentry is accurate, but it is no subsitute for actually watching it, not by any means. The opinion of someone who has watched carries far more weight than someone who has listened.

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