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Quote: Mrs Barista "The only reasons to appoint Noble would be that he's available and better than Agar. He's not delivered much at Wigan and made some poor/average overseas signings. He's got a poor record on retaining local talent. The playing style he adopts is somewhat outdated. He's got previous with 2 of our senior players for next season.

The next coaching appointment is vital. Personally I'd be looking in Aus and getting the chequebook out. We are not even also-rans in the competition now but established as the worst non-promoted team. A 33-year-old scrum half and a couple of new forwards are not going to magically transform us into play-off contenders.

I am more pi$$ed off this morning than last night. Looking at what was on offer last night was a clear picture of the consequences of a coach out of his depth.
Injuries aside (although there must be a question as to why we get so many more than other teams)
Calderwood out, despite being our POTY and still looking our keenest player in the warm-up
Briscoe back in and not ready
Yeaman back in and not ready
Thackray not mentioned
Thorman sat on the sidelines with confidence destroyed
Tansey moved out of position to 6 to avoid the scenario of our cleverest footballer being played in a creative position.
Money spent on Cordoba who makes mistake after mistake but
Maloney being cast aside.
Radford, re-signed under Agar, making no impression
Berrigan, playing with injections, a world class hooker playing out of position for months to address the recruitment mistake of Thorman

I could go on but you get the idea.

I don't think Noble's the answer but I KNOW Agar isn't.'"



The dropping of Calderwood was bad enough, but that one decision had me livid last night. I cannot for life of me see the reasoning behind it!

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Quote: airliebird58 "The dropping of Calderwood was bad enough, but that one decision had me livid last night. I cannot for life of me see the reasoning behind it!'"

What would I have done one year ago,I know I'll rest Calders for the cup final icon_idea.gif

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Quote: Mrs Barista "The only reasons to appoint Noble would be that he's available and better than Agar. He's not delivered much at Wigan and made some poor/average overseas signings. He's got a poor record on retaining local talent. The playing style he adopts is somewhat outdated. He's got previous with 2 of our senior players for next season.

The next coaching appointment is vital. Personally I'd be looking in Aus and getting the chequebook out. We are not even also-rans in the competition now but established as the worst non-promoted team. A 33-year-old scrum half and a couple of new forwards are not going to magically transform us into play-off contenders.

I am more pi$$ed off this morning than last night. Looking at what was on offer last night was a clear picture of the consequences of a coach out of his depth.
Injuries aside (although there must be a question as to why we get so many more than other teams)
Calderwood out, despite being our POTY and still looking our keenest player in the warm-up
Briscoe back in and not ready
Yeaman back in and not ready
Thackray not mentioned
Thorman sat on the sidelines with confidence destroyed
Tansey moved out of position to 6 to avoid the scenario of our cleverest footballer being played in a creative position.
Money spent on Cordoba who makes mistake after mistake but
Maloney being cast aside.
Radford, re-signed under Agar, making no impression
Berrigan, playing with injections, a world class hooker playing out of position for months to address the recruitment mistake of Thorman

I could go on but you get the idea.

I don't think Noble's the answer but I KNOW Agar isn't.'"
Good post, the only bone of contention i have is that i'm getting past the stage where i give a f**k cos i expect us to play dross and get beat.

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Being good on the international scene in RL hardly makes you a great coach. Any living Aussie could have taken control of the Aussie team over the last 30 years and still beat us.

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I still find it quite funny to think that people believe that James Rule makes decisions like hiring and firing of coaches icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

This glove puppet may have a "VOICE" but some else has there hand stuck up working the vital bits icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Ian P "I still find it quite funny to think that people believe that James Rule makes decisions like hiring and firing of coaches KAF

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ATEOD people were calling for Agar to be given a shot at the time, I was one of them and am big enought o admit I was wrong with that one. It happens to us all.

Now its being proved wrong everyone start on the board, I must be one of a few but I don't think we really have a board thats all that bad. I mean how many off the field records have we broke with them in charge ?

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Quote: pmarrow "ATEOD people were calling for Agar to be given a shot at the time, I was one of them and am big enought o admit I was wrong with that one. It happens to us all.

Now its being proved wrong everyone start on the board, I must be one of a few but I don't think we really have a board thats all that bad. I mean how many off the field records have we broke with them in charge ?'"


me too icon_surprised.gifops: good post you are right

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I never wanted Agar to get the job but I was happy to be proven wrong. He's had 1 and 1/2 seasons now to do that and all he's done is show me he's worse than I ever imagined.

There's nothing for me to be smug about though because he's running the club I love into the ground, and the board insist he's getting several more months to keep doing so.

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To go back to Mrs B's original post.
She has it spot on.
Especially the question of why so many injuries for the umpteeth season. Is it something to do with the training regime?
Also a change of captain wouldn't go amiss.
I have never been a fan of Radford, as a player or his low-profile approach to captaincy.

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Quote: Ian P "I still find it quite funny to think that people believe that James Rule makes decisions like hiring and firing of coaches
He does get some say though Ian I heard he asked if she would cut her finger nails!!! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: The Brother "Good post Mrs B, agree with all what you said, Maloney is for a reason though and rightly so'"


Whats that for?

I've been told he's "a class apart" at Fax, "head and shoulders above the rest of the team"

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Quote: Tarquin Fuego "Some Hull fans are naive at least

Noble only won things when he was spending £500,000 over the Cap.

Check his record on winning when Bulls were legal on wages !!!!

Even at Wigan he was involved in the most outrageous fiddle with Fielden and they barely escaped relegation.

NO NO NO NO

An Australian - Bellamy/Stuart/ Hasler for eg'"
Kearny

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Quote: RAB C "Kearny'"


FFS no. It's amazing how many people don't grasp that being a great player doesn't automatically make you a great coach. We need someone with experience.

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Quote: Uncle Junior "FFS no. It's amazing how many people don't grasp that being a great player doesn't automatically make you a great coach. We need someone with experience.'"

Ray French and DDD have lots of experience (of 1950's rugby) does that make them good coaches?

We need someone who has played SL (or coached) and someone who know what it takes to be a success

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