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| Quote: Chris28 "I should be there, broken arm and all, primarily so I can comment on the game afterwards. Thanks ultimate13
People with broken bones are not "whole" people. Therefore your opinion is somewhat lesser
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| Quote: Stan Butler "Apologies if already been done but I can see less than 10k for this one.
Thoughts?'"
I think the club should offer some sort of deal for this one...like 50% off or two for 1 or something. i say we email the club and say just that as i wont be going as i dont believe they are worth it at the moment
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| Quote: hull smallears "People with broken bones are not "whole" people. Therefore your opinion is somewhat lesser'"
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| Quote: hull smallears "People with broken bones are not "whole" people. Therefore your opinion is somewhat lesser'"
So it can be counted as an opinion, but then ignored? Magic
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| Quote: Kosh "So you believe that the club subverted the electronic turnstiles at the KC and released an inflated crowd figure which will result in them paying more money to the SMC and more tax at the end of the year?
OK then.'"
No, we just believe they count all pre-sold tickets and season passes whether they attend or not.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "No, we just believe they count all pre-sold tickets and season passes whether they attend or not.'"
They don't.
We have a voucher scheme so by your rationale someone could use each voucher twice, once for the game they miss and once for the game they exchange the voucer for.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "No, we just believe they count all pre-sold tickets and season passes whether they attend or not.'"
Despite several people clearly stating that they don't? And despite the numbers not adding up at all if you make that assumption?
OK then.
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| Last home game I was given a free hotdog to walk through the turnstyles 13 times.
Make of that what you will.
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| i have emailed the club saying they need to do a discount or something...we wait and anticipate......
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "They don't.
We have a voucher scheme so by your rationale someone could use each voucher twice, once for the game they miss and once for the game they exchange the voucer for.'"
They would only use it once though but count as 2 people!! (which is physically possible)
Even if they could, which they can't as the SMC do the crowd figures, why would Hull fiddle the crowd up? That would cost them money.
Some major conspiracy theorists on here.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Even if they could, which they can't as the SMC do the crowd figures, why would Hull fiddle the crowd up? That would cost them money.
Some major conspiracy theorists on here.
They may want to fiddle the crowd up to try to convince people that FC arent staying away?
Im generally not a conspiracy theorist but having seen the crowd for some games this year there is absolutely no way the figure released has been correct. (unless everyone has stayed on the concourse drinking which i guess is possible)
Dont FC only pay the SMC a % of people actually paying cash on the day and not a % of season passes which is pre-paid so wont actually matter. Im sure ive read that somewhere.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "They may want to fiddle the crowd up to try to convince people that FC arent staying away?
Im generally not a conspiracy theorist but having seen the crowd for some games this year there is absolutely no way the figure released has been correct. (unless everyone has stayed on the concourse drinking which i guess is possible)
Dont FC only pay the SMC a % of people actually paying cash on the day and not a % of season passes which is pre-paid so wont actually matter. Im sure ive read that somewhere.'"
We share gate money for every bum on seat over roughly 7500.
So if Hull put 5k on that figure, we would need to pay for 2500 people.
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| Quote: Stan Butler "We share gate money for every bum on seat over roughly 7500.
So if Hull put 5k on that figure, we would need to pay for 2500 people.'"
And as the pass holders have already paid FC why wouldnt they absorb the cost of doing that to save face and make it look like the fans are still behind them? (i appreciate the double count of using the ticket at a later date but some people may say its worth them taking the hit?)
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| Quote: Big Dave T "I dont understand here why you seem of the opinion that this scenario cant be fiddled?'"
Three reasons:
1. The turnstiles are operated by SMC employees and are linked to a computer which produces the crowd numbers. These have to be accurate for H&S reasons. It is therefore impossible to inflate walk-up numbers. In fact I think that even pre-sold and complimentary tickets have to be put through the turnstile system to log the numbers inside the ground.
2. It makes no financial sense. Our deal with the SMC is based on bums on seats. The more bums, the more we pay. Inflating the crowd numbers means we lose substantial mounts of cash, particularly as the voucher scheme allows pass holders to roll tickets over from one game to another. We'd end up counting some pass holders multiple times over the season leading to a huge payout.
3. Tax. It will be rather difficult to explain the discrepancy between cash declared and crowd numbers to those fine folk at HMRC come the end of the tax year.
In short, I can't see one good reason to fiddle the figures and several excellent reasons not to. However, since I've used logic to arrive at these conclusions rather than just emoting all over the place I fully expect to be in a minority.
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