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Quote: theultimate13 "Never did i say i was happy with this? 30 year supporter myself and no need to justify my opinion ! We, at the moment, are truly dire!!'"


So what you're saying is, it's ok for you to be pi$$ed off tonight because you went but not so for those of us that didn't (which is the vast majority of us).

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Quote: theultimate13 "I am fed up with you so called fans commenting on my team! You lot who have so much to mickey and moan about but cant actually get yourselves to a game. Everybody has a right to an opinion and i accept that not everyone can make games for whatever reason but don't then have an opinion that belies what you have actually seen!
Tonight was absolutely woeful and unacceptable to the fans who pay their well earned to attend ......no excuses!

If you can't get to a game because you'd rather watch Newcastle or England play wendy ball then don't spout with the real fans!!!!'"


Oh don't be so bloody precious.

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I didn't go tonight. And I don't give a flying one what some jumped up like ultimate13 thinks about that fact.

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Quote: Smiggs "So what you're saying is, it's ok for you to be pi$$ed off tonight because you went but not so for those of us that didn't (which is the vast majority of us).'"


thats it in a nutshell, because we didnt go we arent allowed an opinion. icon_lol.gif

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In defence of the OP who seems to be getting a bit of a kicking (possibly because some are still making their way back from the game), I will just say this.

My red and white in-laws supported Rovers through the early to mid 80s, then abandoned ship when things got difficult and performances on the pitch were abject. They then re-engaged when Rovers got promotion and now conveniently choose to disregard the missing 15 years, claiming to be lifelong fans.

Selectivity like this is their prerogative, but a) put the club's existence at risk, b) worsened the experience of the other supporters who did stand by the club in tough times, and c) means that this "Rovers til I die" nonsense is just that. I don't know how they can claim it and not be embarrassed, and it's not the sort of supporter I personally aspire to be.

I understand people not wanting to shell out for the poor quality we're serving up at the moment, but equally I understand the frustration of the fans who care enough to turn up every week only to come on here and find people taking some kind of weird cynical high ground, as if there are points to be scored by witholding support. Bizarre.

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Quote: Smiggs "So what you're saying is, it's ok for you to be pi$$ed off tonight because you went but not so for those of us that didn't (which is the vast majority of us).'"

No, what i i'msaying is ... Not everyone can go ...i accept that. But then don't come on spouting about the game/team without being there!

SKY viewers excepted tonight, but not the norm!!

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Quote: Mrs Barista "
I understand people not wanting to shell out for the poor quality we're serving up at the moment, but equally I understand the frustration of the fans who care enough to turn up every week only to come on here and find people taking some kind of weird cynical high ground, as if there are points to be scored by witholding support. Bizarre.'"


Only a handful of people talk like that. The rest of us probably only have limited money for entertainment and choose not to spend a massive portion of it going all the way to Wakefield (or wherever) to watch cack like that when we can see it just as well on SKY.

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Quote: theultimate13 "No, what i i'msaying is ... Not everyone can go ...i accept that. But then don't come on spouting about the game/team without being there!

SKY viewers excepted tonight, but not the norm!!'"


and whether they listen to it on radio or wherever they are still allowed an opinion, thats what a forum is for icon_idea.gif

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Quote: Mrs Barista "In defence of the OP who seems to be getting a bit of a kicking (possibly because some are still making their way back from the game), I will just say this.

My red and white in-laws supported Rovers through the early to mid 80s, then abandoned ship when things got difficult and performances on the pitch were abject. They then re-engaged when Rovers got promotion and now conveniently choose to disregard the missing 15 years, claiming to be lifelong fans.

Selectivity like this is their prerogative, but a) put the club's existence at risk, b) worsened the experience of the other supporters who did stand by the club in tough times, and c) means that this "Rovers til I die" nonsense is just that. I don't know how they can claim it and not be embarrassed, and it's not the sort of supporter I personally aspire to be.

I understand people not wanting to shell out for the poor quality we're serving up at the moment, but equally I understand the frustration of the fans who care enough to turn up every week only to come on here and find people taking some kind of weird cynical high ground, as if there are points to be scored by witholding support. Bizarre.'"



Ahhh sensibilty. You get my point! It's not that they are't real fans it's just they argue the point without all the facts!

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Quote: XxHONEYxX "i went and have got a nice tan to add to my already tan. good day out'"


Could show us yer white bits if you want, we need cheering up icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Mrs Barista "In defence of the OP who seems to be getting a bit of a kicking (possibly because some are still making their way back from the game), I will just say this.

My red and white in-laws supported Rovers through the early to mid 80s, then abandoned ship when things got difficult and performances on the pitch were abject. They then re-engaged when Rovers got promotion and now conveniently choose to disregard the missing 15 years, claiming to be lifelong fans.

Selectivity like this is their prerogative, but a) put the club's existence at risk, b) worsened the experience of the other supporters who did stand by the club in tough times, and c) means that this "Rovers til I die" nonsense is just that. I don't know how they can claim it and not be embarrassed, and it's not the sort of supporter I personally aspire to be.

I understand people not wanting to shell out for the poor quality we're serving up at the moment, but equally I understand the frustration of the fans who care enough to turn up every week only to come on here and find people taking some kind of weird cynical high ground, as if there are points to be scored by witholding support. Bizarre.'"

I have been a supporter of Hull FC for over 30 years, having been taken to the boulevard at the age of 4 or 5, by my dad, who was home from sea.
In that time iv experienced great times, going unbeaten in the late 70's, the dizzy heights of the early-mid 80's, great players, Sterling, knocker, crane, skerret, stone to name but a few,also saw some good coaches Bunting, Smith, and then came the not so good times, the len casey era, peter walsh, but in all that time my support hadnt wavered, iv been stood on Bunkers Hill, with a crowd of 3000, just hoping the opposition wouldnt put more than 10 past us, but, i could deal with the bad then, because as a club we had nothing on the pitch and we had f*ck all off the pitch, but the players TRIED, and gave there all, and the supporters that was there, realised this, and got behing the team.
Now we have everything to sucseed, great fan base, great stadium, merchandise sales the best theres been, and on the pitch?? no desire, no commitment, no effort, theres no positives, this is what hurts me, this club has the nucleous to be great, but due to poor/cheap options, there robbing the supporter, im just average joe, with a family to feed, but still buy our passes year after year, but the away games are now not worth the effort/money, but im no less of a fan, than the one that goes to the end of the world for them, and for others to question others that has made a decision, i find insulting, but obviously im a part time supporter, i can live with that!!!

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Quote: theultimate13 "Ahhh sensibilty. You get my point! It's not that they are't real fans it's just they argue the point without all the facts!'"

Are you saying that people that do go have ALL the facts?

Mate you're making yourself look for stupid. And arrogant. Whether you were at the game, watched it on tele or listened on the radio, you can still make a comment or have an opinion. Certain people may have been in a better position to interpret what happened during the game, but that doesn't mean their interpretation is any better.

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Quote: westjba "I have been a supporter of Hull FC for over 30 years, having been taken to the boulevard at the age of 4 or 5, by my dad, who was home from sea.
In that time iv experienced great times, going unbeaten in the late 70's, the dizzy heights of the early-mid 80's, great players, Sterling, knocker, crane, skerret, stone to name but a few,also saw some good coaches Bunting, Smith, and then came the not so good times, the len casey era, peter walsh, but in all that time my support hadnt wavered, iv been stood on Bunkers Hill, with a crowd of 3000, just hoping the opposition wouldnt put more than 10 past us, but, i could deal with the bad then, because as a club we had nothing on the pitch and we had f*ck all off the pitch, but the players TRIED, and gave there all, and the supporters that was there, realised this, and got behing the team.
Now we have everything to sucseed, great fan base, great stadium, merchandise sales the best theres been, and on the pitch?? no desire, no commitment, no effort, theres no positives, this is what hurts me, this club has the nucleous to be great, but due to poor/cheap options, there robbing the supporter, im just average joe, with a family to feed, but still buy our passes year after year, but the away games are now not worth the effort/money, but im no less of a fan, than the one that goes to the end of the world for them, and for others to question others that has made a decision, i find insulting, but obviously im a part time supporter, i can live with that!!!'"


A very good post. But a couple of points. I have seen worse in terms of effort than what we have now. To claim we always tried in the days of the 3000 crowds is an exaggeration. I'm not saying you're a better or worse fan than ones that went tonight, what I am saying is that some people take some kind of warped pride in not going and witholding their support, like it earns them some sort of credibility. I don't understand that standpoint, which is different to yours, I think.

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Went to the game and paid for my sins, thought we were rubbish first half but we played better second half, but yet again left ourselves with too much too do. Dowies looked injured to me. Thaler was awful - how can he ref a game between Hull and Wakefield when is from Wakefield!!!

Was stood behind some tanked up fans that was only interested in the beer and slagging our team off. I get sick of people saying we are rubbish and Agar should go. Get a grip Agar is going nowhere - he's building his team for next year. If you don't like what you see the don't come.

I hate hearing the team booed!!! Its not right - I totally agree that you are entitled to your opinion as a paying fan - but as a 100% fan please don't shout abuse to the team while they are playing - it serves no purpose at all. If you are not happy with the way we are playing - simple - stay at home!!!!!

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