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Quote: Standee "Remember, all some people care about is finishing about Celtic!

or so it seems'"
Get your head out of your ar$e, and actually read some of the posts people are writing.

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Quote: knocker norton "Jeez. Anybody happy and content with last nights performance has some serious expectation issues!

I will gladly take the 2 points and a few positives but crowds will dwindle if that is the quality of rugby served up at the KC for a fact.'"


Like I said, you had several top players missing.

It was a scrappy game between two poor sides, but you came out on top.
When you get the better players back you have to trust in the coaching staff to produce better Rugby. If they still play 5 drives and a kick then you can moan but when you are on the slide and have players missing then surely it is more important to play up the jumper and grind out a win at, lets remember, a side who beat Leeds and Hull the last few weeks.

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Quote: Bandito "Like I said, you had several top players missing.

It was a scrappy game between two poor sides, but you came out on top.
When you get the better players back you have to trust in the coaching staff to produce better Rugby. If they still play 5 drives and a kick then you can moan but when you are on the slide and have players missing then surely it is more important to play up the jumper and grind out a win at, lets remember, a side who beat Leeds and Hull the last few weeks.'"


I agree we had some quality players missing and everyone is hoping they make a massive difference if/when they return.

The main issue is the quality and style of the rugby we are playing. The players are not determining this because I believe we still have enough quality to play better attacking rugby and TBF we show it in small glimpses.

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Quote: knocker norton "I agree we had some quality players missing and everyone is hoping they make a massive difference if/when they return.

The main issue is the quality and style of the rugby we are playing. The players are not determining this because I believe we still have enough quality to play better attacking rugby and TBF we show it in small glimpses.'"


It is probably just a case of giving it time then mate.

If you think the players currently on the field can play better Rugby then I can see why people complain.

However without some key players and with a couple of young inexperienced players in the team, Lee, Maloney, Burnett, Briscoe etc, perhaps Agar is looking at keeping to a simple game plan until the team picks up some confidence and experience together and gradually and more flair to the game?

Saints didnt start playing the way they do over night, it is maybe a long term plan.
Then again it could just be boring RL, only time will tell but at least you are picking up wins and staying well in touch with the play off's.

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[b:16wvcohs]"To play your best football you need players with enthusiasm and drive and energy." - [i:16wvcohs]Peter Sterling[/i:16wvcohs][/b:16wvcohs] [quote="Adam Pearson said not":16wvcohs][b:16wvcohs]I know there are two franchises and two clubs (in Hull) and that will remain forever more[/b:16wvcohs][/quote:16wvcohs]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12839.png



Quote: Jake the Peg "You seem intent on belittling anything anyone posts which isn't wildly optimistic. '"


I don't dismiss anyone's opinion whatsoever but will argue against them on here if I disagree using facts that I know (not fiction) and my opinions of games as I see them.

Quote: Jake the Peg "Do you honestly believe that last night's performance was better than we've seen in recent weeks? Other than, perhaps, less dropped ball, we didn't look any different to me.'"


Less dropped ball always leads to a better performance. Always has done and always will do. We moved the ball wide confidently in the first half. Struggled for field position in second half and lost a fair bit of direction. Had a 2nd half try rightly disallowed.

Quote: Jake the Peg "They also have the worst defence in SL by some margin yet still kept us scoreless for the whole of the 2nd half.'"


And also beat us/Leeds/and wire recently.

Quote: Jake the Peg "Be as positive as you like'"


Thanks for that.

Quote: Jake the Peg "don't dimiss the opinions of those of us who have removed our rose tinted specs'"


Is that not what you do too or is accusing someone of wearing 'rose tinted spectacles' not being dismissive of their opinion ?

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[b:16wvcohs]"To play your best football you need players with enthusiasm and drive and energy." - [i:16wvcohs]Peter Sterling[/i:16wvcohs][/b:16wvcohs] [quote="Adam Pearson said not":16wvcohs][b:16wvcohs]I know there are two franchises and two clubs (in Hull) and that will remain forever more[/b:16wvcohs][/quote:16wvcohs]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12839.png



Quote: Big Dave T "Whats funny about that? We're a very poor team.'"


We are average - not very poor in my opinion as our league position shows - middle. As for any other team in the league beating us I failed to see the relevance of such speculation and found it amusing. That together with the somewhat negative view that we won only because the other team were so poor made me laugh. Apologies.

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Quote: Roverswall "And all the thousands of fans you guys get have always been there have they?
Thought not do we have some yes we do but are we on our own no we arnt and tbh chewie I thought you were above the 'my dad is bigger' b0ll0cks.'"
Well above it........and believe it or not......totally non-biased. If we lose, we lose and unless we have given less than at least 99%, then I will maybe whinge....a bit! icon_wink.gif I know we have our 'hangers-on' but no way near the percentage of the Rovers supposed 'die-hards'. When we win/beat you we dont brag about it for weeks afterwards. Only last Sunday i got a load of crap off a couple off a couple of Rovers-shirted idiots cos I had an FC badge on the polo I was wearing......this was about an hour after your win over Quinns......I asked 'em what sort of car they drove cos they should be entering it into next seasons F1 competition, THEY DIDN'T GET IT!!!! icon_lol.gif
To sum it up RW, we know just who the fickle support is at the KC......they have certain characteristics! icon_wink.gif

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We havn't turned the corner in the fact that it was a good display, however we had to win, however hard we made it look, and thats what we did. Everyone has blips throughout the course of a season but I think when we lost a couple of games it massively knocked the players confidence, after last season you can kind of understand how a bad run will really effect them.

To finally get over the line after a baron spell will hopefully be a big shot in the arm for us and we need to build on that win now.

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Quote: The HULL FC Rocker "NOTHING!!!! We need someone with drive and passion to run our club and a coach with experience and good knowledge of pro rugby league. Agar is nothing but a second rate coach with a hand in his back!!!!'"
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Same old e played last night, different day and ohhh 2 points!

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Quote: Staffs FC "I don't dismiss anyone's opinion whatsoever but will argue against them on here if I disagree using facts that I know (not fiction) and my opinions of games as I see them.'"


You put a "laughing smiley" as a response to someone who doesn't agree with your opinion

Quote: Staffs FC "Less dropped ball always leads to a better performance. Always has done and always will do. We moved the ball wide confidently in the first half. Struggled for field position in second half and lost a fair bit of direction. Had a 2nd half try rightly disallowed..'"


So we failed to score in a full 1/2 against the worst defence in SL as I said

Quote: Staffs FC "And also beat us/Leeds/and wire recently..'"


Irrelevant. They've also been convincingly beaten a number of times

Quote: Staffs FC "Thanks for that.
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You're welcome

Quote: Staffs FC "Is that not what you do too or is accusing someone of wearing 'rose tinted spectacles' not being dismissive of their opinion ?'"


No

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Quote: Jake the Peg "You put a "laughing smiley" as a response to someone who doesn't agree with your opinion'"


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Quote: Staffs FC "We are average - not very poor in my opinion as our league position shows - middle. As for any other team in the league beating us I failed to see the relevance of such speculation and found it amusing. That together with the somewhat negative view that we won only because the other team were so poor made me laugh. Apologies.'"


We didnt score other than a penalty in 40 mins of rugby vs Salford with the worst defence and youre disagreeing that we didnt only win because Salford were poor?

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Quote: Big Dave T "We didnt score other than a penalty in 40 mins of rugby vs Salford with the worst defence and youre disagreeing that we didnt only win because Salford were poor?'"

We beat them because we were the better side on the day. Isn't that pretty much how every game is won? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Big Dave T "We didnt score other than a penalty in 40 mins of rugby vs Salford with the worst defence and youre disagreeing that we didnt only win because Salford were poor?'"


We won the game over 80 minutes. I've read about how all 7 of our wins were poor and the opposition were 'underdone' or poor. No doubt Leeds were poor when Salford beat them at home. No chance at all the Salford had something to do with Leeds' performance of course. The point is we were better than them and did enough to win. Defence was good and pretty tough at times and in the second half we survived a serious deficiency of posession by conceding one try only. Any game we can win with so many players out should be applauded. Nowhere will I claim that we are a good side but we are not poor but lack quality, consistency and leadership.

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