Those two idiots on radio humberside yesterday Richardson and Lloyd also harped on about this 'culture at the club'. As you said it has been here for a very long time, and all those that have passed through have been infected by/with this 'culture'.
Gollum and his side kick believe it is so big and out of control and it's like trying to turn around a (Richardson) a Cruise Liner and the dim wit that is Lloyd tried to amplify it by saying it was a Super Tanker. They really did their best to exaggerate any club failings.
As for the alleged culture, I think it is well and truly gone, the only people left from that time are Horne/Yeaman/Last, coaches, players and back room staff have all been changed on a regular basis since then and any 'culture' would have been diluted to pi$$ by now.........Unless the 3 mentioned are still infected.

Doesn't have to be the same players. Cultures are made over time, as old players go, new ones come in but habits can evolve.

do the club still do alcohol testing monday mornings or has that been knocked on the head by our landlord, sorry coach lol

What's the point of testing only on Mondays?

Given some of our performances this season, they should extend any testing to matchdays too

You a right, but I am also of the opinion that it had just become an excuse now. I would like Radford or Pearson or whoever to say what the mean rather than just using it as a buzzword.

I rarely see evidence of players not putting effort in on the pitch (there are notable examples, but it doesn't happen often). In the modern game hard work will only get you so far, more skillful, better drilled teams will find you out if you're not good enough.

I agree with that that could be the case, but don't you think that with the big turnover of personnel that it would have weakened by now. We all knew that Paul King had a bad record for drinking, but I don't see that he would have had a major influence!! The likes of Berrigan and J Smith would have been bad influences with their 'habits'.. but surely that would have been tempered by the likes of Swain and Fitzgibbon.

The sum of all our parts (playing ability) has been proved to be far, far greater than the whole. As has been often said: the current squad is certainly not (or at least shouldn't be) a 12th place team

Agree, seeing as we are worldbeaters in training maybe it should be matchdays

No matter how well or poorly we are coached, we certainly seem to be badly managed. A good manager will be able to take an underperforming member of staff to one side, let them know their failings (while also praising their good points) and offering a solution to make sure those failings are at least mitigated.

Something that seems to be way outside Radford's capabilities

The squad is probably good enough to scrape into the 8 but not much more than that.

Having a culture problem and a bad coach are not mutually exclusive. I think there probably is an attitude/culture problem at the club, which is one reason why successive coaches have struggled. Training well but not producing on the pitch is a good indicator of a bad attitude IMO.

It's not necessarily about culture, culture is something that can be developed. It sounds quite simple, but we need to create an environment which encourages players to be the best they can, that promotes players have the right attitude and worms out the ones that don't.

I think historically it has been and still is a cultural issue. All good and bad cultures within organisations don't look the same. I believe the cultural issue we have today is not the same one from the drinking culture in the McRae /king et al days.

The culture is created and evolved by the leaders from the top of an organisation all the way to the bottom.

Looking back to AP's media performances, it's clear that he lacks leadership. The example I would give would be the reference to the lack of attack plan from Gentle. I remember this being a big part of AP's justification for appointing Radford in the first place, as it was perceived Radford produced the defensive display. But surely AP as the leader and owner he has a right to see or be informed of any part of HIS organisation? Why could AP not have that request answered or explained? He either lacked the leadership skills with Gentle at the time OR it's simply a convenient reason for his actions. Either way it tells everyone else in the organisation that either he ducks difficult situations OR individuals will be shipped out if they don't deliver to the expected standard. Hardly a good environment to be part of when things aren't going well. This is clearly just one of I'm sure other examples.

Historically with poor Lee Radford (no irony or Micky taking meant), the majority of people/players remembering him as Hull captain under the sticks head down, hands on hips as yet another conversion is fired over his head. When on the field he was unable to make the impact he is now asking his players to deliver. True when part of a very successful Bradford team, he enjoyed success. BUT he never delivered success or lead a group of average performers to consistent success.

So the top of the leadership pyramid , what should be the heartbeat of the organisations culture are sadly failing and not delivering the results I'm sure they desperately want.

Therefore it's not to hard to see why the players are also not delivering what we all hope to see week in week out.

Just my personal opinion.

Personally I feel they is something wrong at the club, whether it is culture or bad habits we simply don't know. However a decade without a decent half back pairing and the same mistakes haunting us tells me they is something on the playing staff which doesn't add up. We have had numerous coaches, some bad appointments maybe but the players must take there fair share of the blame.

We have made players far too comfortable, they get treated like celebrities off the field by many supporters and we throw stupid wages at people who ain't worthy of earning it. They get a lot of media on a daily basis and get to play in front of 10,000 fans in a top stadium. We have had far too many testimonials at this club and very little silverware in comparison, that in itself sends a message out we are happy to settle for mediocrity.

Players don't sign for Wigan, Leeds or Warrington and have far too many average games or just scrape games to cover the cracks. Why ? because they would be shown straight out of the door and exposed for the type of professional they are. We are the type of club that don't show the door to players like this and instead we throw a stupid salary at them to sign them after they have being dismissed from other clubs.

Its this culture or way of dealing with business for many years which see's us struggling to sign the top drawer players because they know themselves until this club sorts out its professionalism we won't go forward. We need to install that winning culture and have players who are professional, not worrying more about getting a testimonial and arranging a curry night. We need to start showing players things like this must be earn't and not just be a given for pulling the jersey on for ten years.

With all this in mind I feel Pearson and Radford are making in roads into this, Radford obviously is trying to phase out the over paid players and replace them with younger talent with a few top players thrown in there. This however does not mean I think he is right to be head coach, however I would look at putting Radford into some sort of player management/performance type of role. He is a tough b*stard and has won it all in this country so players will respect him. Pearson has had to dangle the cheque book to get a few top names over here, probably paying over the odds but with little choice IMO considering the pulling power this club has. Lets be honest, if Ellis or Sneyd was offered the same from Wigan/ Leeds we all know who they would have chosen.

We have got Ellis and Sneyd because of the money we have thrown as simple as that, Ellis for me has earnt every penny and as captain is doing his bit at showing the other players how to be professionally. IMO it is down to him which has seen Joe Westerman come of age recently. Sneyd I am hopeful will be our scrum half for the next ten years, hopefully he has it in him to earn it.

Steve Crooks has been appointed to that role.