Funnily enough the talk of missing out on millions and millions every year in match day revenues, burger vans and concerts only started when Rovers took out the mortgage on Craven Park and then all of a sudden according to them the only way of being successful was owning a ground while completely ignoring the likes of Wigans success over the years, can’t believe our fans fall for it.

Don’t get me wrong it’s great for them no denying that but they’re a completely different animal, they have multiple rich backers and simply had the opportunity to buy Craven Park at a cost a rugby league club could make viable.

In the 20 odd years we’ve played at the Stadium I’d say for the vast majority of those we’d have managed to run a wage bill to compete with the top clubs. We’ve won 3 cups and made the GF but mostly underachieved by poor recruitment/retention decisions. It’s not that ground that’s held us back. I’m not sure what the implications of not owning a stadium in Covid was if that made of us more exposed than anyone else, but without a big financial backer and no income we were doomed anyway. Agree entirely about the atmosphere in the ground, again I’m not sure that’s down to not owning the stadium I’m sure if there was a will to improve the atmosphere and decent performing side on the pitch it could be bouncing again.

Apologies this was directed to Jake the Peg not you lol

On slightly different subject whats happened with Kai Armstrong? I've seen a few posts on here from members saying they dont expect him to be here in a couple of seasons etc etc... Isn't he like the once in the academy that's expected to reach the top top level? It was only start of last season that some where mentioning potential move to Aus etc? I don't see much of the academy games i must admit so is he anywhere near SL level yet? He just appears to not have the same hype about him anymore?

Just remembered he went on loan to Midland Hurricanes and it says he got injured on debut, unsure if hes played since but i know hes suffered with Injuries quite a bit already

Doesn't seem to be have given an opportunity like some others have, but that could be down to injuries?

I last saw him play at 6 against Leigh reserves and he looked pretty good.

Pearson is a big fan isn't he?

He's started his own personal training business up - and not much been mentioned about Rugby recently, wonder if he is being released

Injuries and the fact the previous CEO put him on a huge deal (for a kid) and now we obviously won’t give him the same money, can’t see him being here.

Noticed that on his facebook place. Gaz Ellis wished him good luck a few hours ago so I don't know whether to interpret that if he has left or not.

If so it's a shame because I've heard so many good reports about him.

I posted a few weeks ago that on one of Hull's previous Facebook post, a friend of the Armstrong family basically said he's been told he is been released

and more clowns to add to the match day experience

Sounds a great idea. Are you free?

I don't think Hull KR, as in the club, own the ground.

No i charge £150 per hour

The COVID situation was we still had to pay a huge rent without playing there for 18 months or so, and then when we returned we had those odd low capacity games. Other clubs could have just padlocked the gates and done some basic maintenance.

But there are advantages to renting, as the stadium has got older it has got more expensive to maintain. It's believed we get free stewarding and more stewards are needed for 2020's standards than first envisaged in the 00s.

Agree with you that we have been successful in the stadium before so it's not necessarily holding us back. We miss out on bar takings but also organising catering and staff isn't straightforward either. Concerts aren't a guaranteed success in Hull (Rovers haven't bothered this year as after poor sales for Rod Stewart and The Who)

Yes the atmosphere is a struggle but that is directly linked to how we are playing. Fans are loud when they get cocky and confident of a win, and it's many years since we've felt like that!

Correct. Mortgage not in the clubs name apparently.

Land grab facilitated by a sympathetic Council.