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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Cynical, or putting the financial well being of the club first? Even when you consider we have made profit for a few years we are still in debt, so you can't blame the board for wanting to take the cheap option.
As for the actual appointment I posted my views last night and I still feel the same. He is young and inexperienced and is learning all the time. He's a good guy and the players are on his side. I will wait until the end of the season before passing a proper judgement. If we have another poor season then I agree it have been a bad decision. But if we come top 6, win a playoff or 2 and do okay in the cup then you can't really argue with the decision to keep him again.
I think this shows that he was England's first choice too. I can't see why else the club would have moved so early. Also, now the coach is in place I imagine we will start to see some recruitment for next year in the next couple of months.'"
You are right, I hope for the sake of my passion for FC he is sucessful..I as many are upset about the Celtic & Salford defeat and we are no doubt knee-jerking..I will get behind my team & rich now as the decision has been taken.
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| Sorry if this has been raised before but I haven't time to read 19 pages of posts but what I can't work out is why this decision has been made now. It makes no sense in either business or rugby terms.
Agar has a contract until the end of the season and its way too early to give him an extension now (just as it would have been way too early to sack him now).
He has publicly said he didn't want the England job.
I can't see that any other SL club would be after him.
Its not yet time to start recruiting new players for next season.
Has it been made to quell rumours about his future thus bringing some stability or to make clear to dissenters within the club that he is here to stay whether they like it or not?
Why was it not announced on Airlie Night last night when the decision had clearly been made by then? Presumably because JR knew how it would go down with a not insignificant section of the fans.
Will it galvanise the team for Friday and the other important matches this month? Who knows.
Maybe the job security will give Agar renewed confidence and performances will improve and we'll have a good season. Or will we end up sacking him at or before the end of the season and paying him compensation?
Sorry I've got no answers only questions.
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| Recruiting players starts very early nowadays before they are snapped up by other clubs and with Quota coming down the need to get feelers out for players OOC in 2010 is paramount.
Strange that they have saved the announcement for April the 1st though, surely the irony is not lost on the club.
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| Prozac save me!
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| Quote: hullbg "Recruiting players starts very early nowadays before they are snapped up by other clubs and with Quota coming down the need to get feelers out for players OOC in 2010 is paramount.
Strange that they have saved the announcement for April the 1st though, surely the irony is not lost on the club.'"
The timing is strange, but they probably wanted to announce it to give the players a boost prior to a crucial stage of the season.
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| Reminds me of Warrington and Cullen. Seem to remember the Wire fans wanting rid yet the board gave Cullen an extention much to everyones amazement. As i remember within six months theyed sacked him anyway
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Cynical, or putting the financial well being of the club first? Even when you consider we have made profit for a few years we are still in debt, so you can't blame the board for wanting to take the cheap option.
As for the actual appointment I posted my views last night and I still feel the same. He is young and inexperienced and is learning all the time. He's a good guy and the players are on his side. I will wait until the end of the season before passing a proper judgement. If we have another poor season then I agree it have been a bad decision. But if we come top 6, win a playoff or 2 and do okay in the cup then you can't really argue with the decision to keep him again.
I think this shows that he was England's first choice too. I can't see why else the club would have moved so early. Also, now the coach is in place I imagine we will start to see some recruitment for next year in the next couple of months.'"
Fair point about the finances, although personally given the choice I'd swap one of our big name signings to pay for a proven top class coach.
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| If a coach is sacked midway through a contract due to poor performance, then is compensation payable to the coach? I genuinely don't know!
Will he have to acheive certain targets in order for compensation to be paid in the event of dismissal? Anyone?
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| Quote: Stanley Unwin "If a coach is sacked midway through a contract due to poor performance, then is compensation payable to the coach? I genuinely don't know!
Will he have to acheive certain targets in order for compensation to be paid in the event of dismissal? Anyone?'"
All depends on what it says in his particular contract! If he's sacked rather than resigns though I'd say it's pretty certain that he'll get paid compensation.
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| Quote: Stanley Unwin "If a coach is sacked midway through a contract due to poor performance, then is compensation payable to the coach? I genuinely don't know!
Will he have to acheive certain targets in order for compensation to be paid in the event of dismissal? Anyone?'"
Would think it depends what is written in to the agreement which could be more or less anything as long as both parties agree it. I wouldn't be surprised if there are binding targets in this case.
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| I don't know if it's already been posted, and I'm not going to trawl through 21 pages to check, but if people want to complain the decision, a good way would be to email/ring the club and as if this is an april fools joke.
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| Timo to move on, he is our man so we need to support him and team and hopefully they will come good. As things stand right now we are in a good position in the league.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Timo to move on, he is our man so we need to support him and team and hopefully they will come good. As things stand right now we are in a good position in the league.'"
Move on? It was only officially announced this morning!
I agree though that the team needs our full support tomorrow, but it seems to me that rather than the club intending this to be a 'timely boost' ahead of the derby, it is more a case of them attempting to bury bad news in the hope that if we manage to win tomorrow this will all get forgotten about.
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "Move on? It was only officially announced this morning!
I agree though that the team needs our full support tomorrow, but it seems to me that rather than the club intending this to be a 'timely boost' ahead of the derby, it is more a case of them attempting to bury bad news in the hope that if we manage to win tomorrow this will all get forgotten about.'"
That would be an incredibly risky strategy bearing in mind Rovers are favourites to win tomorrow and defeat would/will only intensify the debate. As you say time to get behind the team.
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