Probably a bit of a culture shock as he has been raised Black and White !

Was deffo a culture shock to him. Spent the first ten minutes of the first half looking for his seat in the East Stand.

Right to all those who think it was because he wanted first team rugby are wrong.....................

Hull FC offered £8,500 for a season and all Josh ever wanted to do was play for FC like his dad.

It's gone down £1,500 in a week. By the end of the month he'll have been asked to pay the club for the privilege of playing for them.

my mate wasnt much out then his family told him 10k a season after tax thats about right ,again player retention is terrible its about time they got rid of Agar hes an idiot we finished one of bottom last year and bottom this year discounting the promoted teams ,anybody else would have gone by now hes a good no2 but can not make the big descions required to be a top coach ,with the players we have we should of made top 8 minimum

how much would you spend on a 3rd choice (possibly 4th choice if lee stays) hooker with hardly any experience? bearing in mind there is a salary cap?

Like it or not probably out of Agar's hands it's up to the board how much money they pay and in the grand scheme of things such as the salary cap I wouldn't have thought there would be much more then that left over for a third choice hooker.

Let's see how Hodgson develops in a position where we have plenty of cover before screaming too much, eh? You can't keep every promising youngster who comes along, no matter if their dad did play for the club in years gone by.

That's assuming that there's any truth in these rumours of course. Other people who know the reserves well seem to think that the decision wasn't money related for the most part.

Oh - and as duff as I think Agar is, our squad this season was only ever borderline playoff material even with luck and a following wind.

My point was its all the spin we are getting, by spin I mean lies about he wanted first team rugby. It was down to money and its tight for next season, very tight due to a couple of players being on mega deals.

I would love to know how much Longy was/is on at Saints now

i dont know but if you carnt offer somone a living wage whats the point in developing players at all just for another club ,if berro isnt fit next year or has further shoulder problems we might need the lad ,i think its fair to say lees going ,this has been common knowlage for some time ,this will leave
houghton ,i just can not see the logic of developing a player since he was 12 and then offering such a poor deal the lad goes to your bitter rivals ,you might as well have said where releasing you and saved the embarresment ,its typical of the current managment of the club ,and i dont enjoy having a go tbh

Are you saying that he didn't want first team rugby?

Are you also suggesting that those people who have posted independently on here that he did were all part of some Machivellian FC plot?

Should we have turned down the deals with Long etc. in order to sign up the likes of Hodgson? How would that have gone down with the fans?

This was about money Kosh I knew it was I just needed to chack it out and I have.


The kid is already Englands academy hooker, he has been at FC since he was twelve and the club made a poor offer. Local players get poor money whilst others like projects get £40K+

How many more times...

YOU CAN'T KEEP EVERY YOUNGSTER.

There's a Salary Cap and this is actually one of the things it was designed to promote.